Thanks, Richard - did that just now. -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2020 8:48 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Vertical scroll bar, was: RE: Removing the clutter on The message window
Carolyn, Check under Settings, Accessibility, Spoken Content. Turn off speak screen and speak selection if they are on. Richard Chicken: A pet that poops breakfast > On Jun 6, 2020, at 5:42 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote: > > I get some kind of stuff about speak screen too that is in my way, > especially when entering access code or when entering a phone number. > Whatever it is, I think I'd be as well off with tit disabled. > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On > Behalf Of Dave > Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2020 7:25 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Vertical scroll bar, was: RE: Removing the clutter on The > message window > > no. > > Dave. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dennis Long > Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2020 12:22 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Vertical scroll bar, was: RE: Removing the clutter on The > message window > > Can the scroll bar be disabled? > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of > Shirley Baker > Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2020 12:45 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Vertical scroll bar, was: RE: Removing the clutter on The > message window > > Can you give me a little more instructions about finding a certain email > using the scroll bar because this is what I would probably use it for. This > does make sense but I just want a little more help in understanding about > finding say a certain email. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jun 6, 2020, at 10:53 AM, Nicola Sanders >> <nicola.sand...@telenet.be> >> wrote: >> >> Hi Shirley, >> Sure, I'll give it a try. I've edited the subject line to reflect the >> shift in topic. I'll explain how the scroll bar works and give a >> couple of examples of how I use it. >> As you know, the vertical scroll bar is a very narrow strip running >> down the right-hand edge of the screen. If you are at the top of a >> list (or a document, a webpage or whatever), when you touch the >> vertical scroll bar, VoiceOver will say "vertical scroll bar, 0%". >> When you swipe down on the scroll bar with one finger, it moves you >> down through the list in increments of 10%; so however long your list >> or page may be, you can get from top to bottom with just ten >> one-finger swipes. The alternative would be to swipe up using three >> fingers, but that gesture moves you in far smaller increments, just a >> screen at a time, and so it takes a lot longer to move through the list and >> locate what you're looking for. >> One example where I find this useful is a TV app in the UK, called Sky+. >> In the TV guide section there are hundreds of channels, numbered 1 to >> 999, with a few gaps in the numbering. Supposing I'm I want to read >> the channels starting from number 500 onwards: I touch the vertical >> scroll bar and swipe down to around 50%, and I know I won't be far >> off. I touch the middle of the screen to read one of the channel >> numbers currently displayed, and I can then use the three-finger >> swipe up or down to find the exact location. If I were to do a >> three-finger swipe through the whole list, it would take me far >> longer, as each screen only consists of around six channels. Also, I >> don't find it that easy to use that gesture repeatedly and very fast, >> and I'm inclined to lose focus and have to tap the middle of the >> screen before continuing. There are no such problems with the vertical >> scroll bar. >> I also find it useful when navigating through my email inbox. I have >> far too many messages in there and am in the process of cleaning them up. >> Obviously I can search for a specific message, but I may just want to >> look at the emails that I received around a certain time. Again, the >> three-finger swipe would take ages. >> I often use the scroll bar to find my place in a long document or >> newspaper article if I get interrupted. I use it with large web pages >> as well, as it can often be difficult to navigate through the whole >> page by headings. In many situations I can do a three-finger tap on >> the middle of the screen to hear roughly where I am, e.g. "rows 35 to >> 41 of 72"; next time I want to find that location, I use the scroll >> bar to go to 50%, and I know I won't be far out. >> Note that the scroll bar works in the opposite direction to the >> three-finger swipe: you swipe down on the scroll bar, but up when >> using the traditional swipe gesture, to move from the top to the bottom. >> I hope that made some sense - if not, let me know and I'll try to clarify. >> HTH, >> Nicky >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf >> Of Shirley Baker >> Sent: 06 June 2020 05:56 >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Removing the clutter on The message window >> >> What long lists might you be referring to because I just don't >> understand how to use this. Maybe you could explain to where it would >> make sense please. >> q >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>>> On Jun 5, 2020, at 1:57 PM, Nicola Sanders >>>> <nicola.sand...@telenet.be> >>>> wrote: >>> Maybe I'm the only one, but personally I love the vertical scroll >>> bar! I find it really useful for navigating very long lists - much >>> quicker than endless three-finger swiping. Perhaps it should be an option >>> in Settings. >>> Best, >>> Nicky >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf >>> Of Carolyn >>> Sent: 05 June 2020 20:35 >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: RE: Removing the clutter on The message window Boy I would >>> too! >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >>> Behalf Of Dave >>> Sent: Friday, June 5, 2020 2:16 PM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: Removing the clutter on The message window I would like >>> the option. To hide the vertical scrol lbar. >>> Dave. >>> From: Anne West <mailto:k1stm...@gmail.com> >>> Sent: Friday, June 05, 2020 6:30 PM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >>> Subject: RE: Removing the clutter on The message window I agree. It >>> seems the world is suddenly camera happy. I would like to get rid of >>> that info too. It’s annoying. >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf >>> Of Afik Souffir >>> Sent: Friday, June 5, 2020 9:40 >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: Removing the clutter on The message window Hi Ann, I >>> dont think that its have an option for this. >>> Sent from my Iphone >>>> On 5 Jun 2020, at 16:35, Ann Byrne <ann...@sbcglobal.net >>>> <mailto:ann...@sbcglobal.net> > wrote: >>> On the texting screen, there is all kinds of clutter including the >>> names of other apps, camera, record, and so on. 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