I don't see that this is an apple issue rather than a voice and language related issue,
I think personally that you need to set the dictionary for voiceover to say the word pease correctly by setting the dictionary to use a word that may not be correctly spelt but makes the word sound correct. -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Shirley Baker Sent: Sunday, 14 June 2020 11:16 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Pronunciation of a word It seems to me that Apple fixes one thing, only to mess up something else. I wish they would get stuff right. I'm not saying they have anything to do with pronunciations but if they did, they need to fix it. Shirley -----Original Message----- From: 'Karen Delzer' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2020 6:14 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Pronunciation of a word I can understand that words are mispronounced, but when one cannot even go in and correct the pronunciation, there is something wrong. Karen At 12:53 PM 6/13/2020, you wrote: >It's the voice, not the screen-reader, that mostly determines how a >word is pronounced. (The voice's speech dictionary is >'hard-wired'.) So, one solution to a mispronunciation issue is to >instead use an alternative voice which will often speak the word >correctly. (This is an over-extensive solution, since the number of >mispronounced words (these days) is relatively small, by any >good-quality voice.) Besides, each voice has the accent of the country >from which its speaker hails: and, add to this, that not all possible >words were spoken by the human whose speech samples were recorded for >the particular voice. So the computer program gives its best guess >based on algorithms across and between the speech samples, how a new or >unrecorded word should be spoken by that voice. Thus, also, 'artifacts' >are introduced into the speech which don't or never would occur in >natural human speech: and when a word is misspoken by the computer's >voice, you have to go to considerable lengths to make it sound like the >word you're used to. > >-----Original Message----- From: Carolyn >Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2020 3:17 PM >To: viphone@googlegroups.com >Subject: RE: Pronunciation of a word > >I tried this, and it sounds right with JAWS on my computer: > >Peese > >P e e s e like cheese. Now, you'd think peese would sound like cheese >or peas, but it sounds like peace. > >-----Original Message----- >From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >Behalf Of Flor Lynch >Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2020 8:57 AM >To: viphone@googlegroups.com >Subject: Re: Pronunciation of a word > >How are you spelling the substitution for 'peace'? Does 'piece' come >out the same way? Try peess? > >-----Original Message----- >From: 'Karen Delzer' via VIPhone >Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 10:36 PM >To: viphone@googlegroups.com >Subject: Pronunciation of a word > >Hi, all, >I'm sorry if this has been covered, but this is driving me batty. >When I hear the word "peace" on my iPhone, it is always pronounced >"peas." Now, it doesn't matter if I try to change the pronunciation in >the correct place in Settings. No matter what I do, and I have tried >many, many things, it always gives me the same outcome. I'm using the >Alison voice if that matters. Just drives me nuts. When I hear "Lord, >please give me peace," I don't want him to give me a scoop of veggies, >so does anyone have any ideas here? > >TIA, >Karen > > >-- >The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > >If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, >or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact >the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list >itself. > >Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >mk...@ucla.edu. 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