I don't see that this is an apple issue rather than a voice and
language related issue,
I think personally that you need to set the dictionary for
voiceover to say the word pease correctly by setting the dictionary
to use a word that may not be correctly spelt but makes the word sound correct.
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf
Of Shirley Baker
Sent: Sunday, 14 June 2020 11:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Pronunciation of a word
It seems to me that Apple fixes one thing, only to mess up
something else. I wish they would get stuff right. I'm not saying
they have anything to do with pronunciations but if they did, they
need to fix it.
Shirley
-----Original Message-----
From: 'Karen Delzer' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2020 6:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Pronunciation of a word
I can understand that words are mispronounced, but when one cannot
even go in and correct the pronunciation, there is something wrong.
Karen
At 12:53 PM 6/13/2020, you wrote:
>It's the voice, not the screen-reader, that mostly determines how a
>word is pronounced. (The voice's speech dictionary is
>'hard-wired'.) So, one solution to a mispronunciation issue is to
>instead use an alternative voice which will often speak the word
>correctly. (This is an over-extensive solution, since the number of
>mispronounced words (these days) is relatively small, by any
>good-quality voice.) Besides, each voice has the accent of the country
>from which its speaker hails: and, add to this, that not all possible
>words were spoken by the human whose speech samples were recorded for
>the particular voice. So the computer program gives its best guess
>based on algorithms across and between the speech samples, how a new or
>unrecorded word should be spoken by that voice. Thus, also, 'artifacts'
>are introduced into the speech which don't or never would occur in
>natural human speech: and when a word is misspoken by the computer's
>voice, you have to go to considerable lengths to make it sound like the
>word you're used to.
>
>-----Original Message----- From: Carolyn
>Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2020 3:17 PM
>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>Subject: RE: Pronunciation of a word
>
>I tried this, and it sounds right with JAWS on my computer:
>
>Peese
>
>P e e s e like cheese. Now, you'd think peese would sound like cheese
>or peas, but it sounds like peace.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>Behalf Of Flor Lynch
>Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2020 8:57 AM
>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>Subject: Re: Pronunciation of a word
>
>How are you spelling the substitution for 'peace'? Does 'piece' come
>out the same way? Try peess?
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: 'Karen Delzer' via VIPhone
>Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 10:36 PM
>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>Subject: Pronunciation of a word
>
>Hi, all,
>I'm sorry if this has been covered, but this is driving me batty.
>When I hear the word "peace" on my iPhone, it is always pronounced
>"peas." Now, it doesn't matter if I try to change the pronunciation in
>the correct place in Settings. No matter what I do, and I have tried
>many, many things, it always gives me the same outcome. I'm using the
>Alison voice if that matters. Just drives me nuts. When I hear "Lord,
>please give me peace," I don't want him to give me a scoop of veggies,
>so does anyone have any ideas here?
>
>TIA,
>Karen
>
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