Hi. I just had to reply to this although my experience of I pads is what I saw in US and one look of I pad 3.
I have no thoughts on this subject as each to his own or her own. I personally love my I phone and use it more than my Mac although I am at work all the time. Here at work, I have to use windows, jaws and megadots. However at home, I use my Mac exclusively accept when needing to scan and then it's windows 7. However, I am liking safari more and more since it has been improved. I personally hate all window lap tops as this is what I like, portible notebooks. As window lap tops are ugly and Mac book pros are lovely to the touch although I am not mad on any platform. I recently acquired a braille note apex for work, and do you know what? I hate using it with my I phone even though it has a 32 braille display. Give me Essys any time with my I phone. Kawal. On Oct 24, 2012, at 2:03 PM, Ron Pelletier <ron.pellet...@sympatico.ca> wrote: > Hi Neil, > > When I mentioned, if you are working, I simply meant that the business world > right now is still PC. Because you run your own businesses, you decided to > go all Mac and that is great but, when you are employed, you have to go with > what your employer goes with and, unless Neil Barnfather is your employer, > statistics still show that you will be working with PC. In my experience, > most people who have to work with one platform at work do not wish to > re-learn a totally different platform at home. One way to go is more than > enough for one person to handle. Over my 22 years of working with blind > clients, I did not work with one person with one set of abilities and 1 > disability. I worked with hundreds of blind, visually impaired and deaf > blind people and I can assure you that the great majority of the people I > have worked with have more than enough dealing with 1 platform. Only a very > small percentage of people are power users like you seem to be. Still the > majority of offices use Microsoft Office and, if you use that with JAWS or > Window Eyes, you have enough commands and keystrokes to remember to last you > for a lifetime without going into a totally different way of doing things. > I am still in touch with many people who don't even want to go with an > IPhone because they are afraid of learning a whole new way of doing things. > Most of these people are still using their PC for computer work and do not > even have a smart phone. They continue to use a regular cell phone to make > all the calls they need to make and use a net book or small laptop for > portability and that's OK too. Realistically speaking, if you have a > computer at work and a computer at home and possibly a net book for > occasional travel or taking notes at an occasional meeting, how many of us > really need to have all that power on our belt or in our pocket. Its > something which, in many cases, we have just talked ourselves into. > > Just my opinion > > Ron > & Danvers > > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of Neil Barnfather - TalkNav > Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 3:31 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Mac verses Ipad > > Ron, > > I employ, rather than am employed some 10,000 people across the four > businesses I own. I use Mac Exclusively, and we operate in a highly > technical industry. > > I currently run four businesses and am working towards starting another two > right now. > > All this talk of complex word processing etc, its just unquantified, and a > little to wishy washy for my liking. > > I work with complex 50+ page documents, with tabbed numbering, auto > adjusting paragraphs, track changes etc. These documents move between MS > Word and Apple Pages without problem for me. > > Can someone quantify for me with real examples as to how word processing has > issues on the Mac? > > Especially when referring to use between the latest MS Word build and the > latest Apple Pages build. > > Please do not compare something like Word with Text, or something like that, > as you're comparing the wrong things which would be unfair. > > > Regards, > > Neil Barnfather > > Talks List Administrator > Twitter @neilbarnfather > > TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, as well as an Apple > iOS, Macintosh and Android accessibility specialist. For all your accessible > phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com > > URL: - www.talknav.com > e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com > Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 > > On 24 Oct 2012, at 00:31, Ron Pelletier <ron.pellet...@sympatico.ca> wrote: > >> Hi Neil, >> >> Totally agree with you with the Apple experience vs PC and JAWS if you >> are a home user but it doesn't work that way yet in the office world. >> Chances are that if you are employed, you will still need to put up >> with the JAWS experience. >> >> Ron & Danvers >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >> Behalf Of Neil Barnfather - TalkNav >> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2012 4:09 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Mac verses Ipad >> >> I cannot comment on your book point, but, will say that I was a Nokia >> and Widnwos PC user for donkey's years, moved over exclusively to >> Apple in 2010, and haven't looked back at all! >> >> The Voice Over experience is reliable, consistent, user friendly and >> most of all a joy to use. I always felt that JAWS and I lived a love >> hate relationship together, Freedom Scientific loved to screw me over, >> over and over, and over again more, and probably would have continued >> to do so until I was bleeding to death from all the money that >> terribly flakey product cost me, and I, I was the hate part of the >> relationship. I hated being dependant on something which caused me stress, > anxiety and misery. >> >> Apple's products do what you want, without fuss and without hassle. >> >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> Neil Barnfather >> >> Talks List Administrator >> Twitter @neilbarnfather >> >> TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, as well as an >> Apple iOS, Macintosh and Android accessibility specialist. For all >> your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit >> www.talknav.com >> >> URL: - www.talknav.com >> e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com >> Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 >> >> On 23 Oct 2012, at 20:43, Kathy and Wilda <wi...@nc.rr.com> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> I have been a PC Jaws user for many years and I'm thinking of going >> exclusively Apple. First do any of you just use the Ipad as your main >> computer and if so what are the pros and cons? Also I like to download >> books from Bookshare to my Victor stream and I know the Ipad doesn't >> have a US port.Is there a work around for that? If anybody could give >> me feedback and let me know their experiences I would greatly >> appreciate any suggestions or comments. 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