iOS 14 has many VoiceOver improvement(s). In the early betas, I went exploring in the accessibility settings. I could not say anything, because of the nondisclosure agreement, but since it’s out, image recognition is a game changerer. Their is an app here in Canada called COVID alert. It is full of images when first set up, and without iOS 14, I could not set it up. For phones which support it, it is great. For phones that do not, their are a plethora of features in iOS 14 you can get. Of course, the newer iPhones are always the ones to get all features of an iOS upgrade, and in my view, when my iPhone SE does not get all features of iOS in future software update(s) it is still a good phone. So, to the iOS 14 haiters, nobody forst you to upgrade, and since you hait iOS 14 anyway, it’s your own fault. The days of talks and Mobilespeek predate me, but now screen reading, has became mainstream. The next heertal is to get it mainstream on the windows platform. JAWS is way to expensive for most people to afford, and its $350 biannually software maintenance agreements, barbaric in my view. I tell you, if the conspect reached the cited market, companies would be out of business! So stay true to VoiceOver, it’s miles better than the cituation in Windows. Microsoft, they always say accessibility is important to them, they develop Narrator at an ridiculously slow pace, and if they’re actually serious, they would divert resources away from visual icons to accessibility. I mean, VoiceOver on the Mac, everyone from what I’m told, hated VoiceOver in Tiger. In Leopard, it was given a major overhaul. Snow leopard , even more so. So be great full a mainstream company are not just all talk and Apple, are actually action. Daniel
> On Oct 6, 2020, at 11:39 AM, Les Kriegler <kriegle...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Well, I can tell you that iOS 14 has resolved tuition is that I feel are very > important. One is the fact that I can use the Mail app again. The focus > issues appear to have been resolved. That’s a major improvement. I also use > Bluetooth hearing aids which is why I upgraded to iOS 14 in the first place. > It was an issue or voiceover wasn’t giving up the use of the A’s and anything > I listen to including people I will talk to you would not have normal sound > for about two minutes. Now, it only takes a few seconds for that to come > back. So in my view, these are two major improvements making it worth the > upgrade. I have concerns about upgrading based on what I heard before, but > when I heard about the hearing aids, I thought what that was too important to > pass up. I am glad that I upgraded. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Oct 6, 2020, at 10:24 AM, Daniel MacDonald >> <daniel.angus.macdon...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Well, I respectivly disagree. I am sharing my perspective as a long time >> iOS beta tester. iOS 14 is different but it deffffenatly does not suck. >> Sure, iOS 10 had its share of bugs in the early beta(s), but it got better. >> iOS 14 has bugs too, as do all software releases, the only way to fix that >> is reporting these bugs to Apple. It is insulting to me as a beta tester to >> here, “iOS 14 sucks,” the hard work I did reporting bugs to apple, only to >> find a sonic like you to complain and use insulting language. Update or not, >> that is your prerogative, but to come on a public list and read these >> thoughts, well, I say to you, since you think iOS 14 sucks, beta test 14.2. >> why do you think this anyway? >> Daniel >> >> >>> On Oct 6, 2020, at 10:07 AM, Devin Prater <r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com >>> <mailto:r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>> I mean, iOS 13 sucked. iOS 12 sucked. iOS 11 sucked. I'm starting to see >>> why people hold off on updating until a few release versions into the >>> current year's release. Maybe 14.2 will be better. >>> Devin Prater >>> sent from Gmail. >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Oct 6, 2020 at 12:56 AM Jenny Bomareto >>> <jennybomareto.from.flor...@gmail.com >>> <mailto:jennybomareto.from.flor...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> Yes, I have turned off and on the phone several times. >>> >>> One of you mention turning off Wi-Fi calling does that mean that all I want >>> to have a Wi-Fi connection if I do that? 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