hi Simon,

Perhaps I should have been a little clearer. I am meant in terms of these 
non-touch ID phones as far as good battery life and overall best bang for the 
buck. Obviously, if a newer flag ship model included touch ID I would no longer 
say that about the iPhone XR.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 14, 2020, at 7:12 PM, Simon A Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
> 
> You're disappointed  at the 12 range not having touch id,
> But you think the xr is the best phone they've produced,
> I didn't think the XR had touch ID either?
> 
> Isn't it a face id device?
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Julian
> Sent: Thursday, 15 October 2020 3:08 pm
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> Subject: Re: But All I Wanted was Touch ID
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I was also similarly disappointed when there was not going to be touch ID in 
> this year's iPhone. I thought for sure that since the iPad Air was getting 
> touch ID if you have the power button that surely at least one of the iPhone 
> 12 models would also include it. I guess I'll be spending another year with 
> my iPhone XR which I agree is Apple's best phone to date.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 14, 2020, at 6:16 PM, Gordon <gor...@gordonradio.com> wrote:
>> 
>> they have made mention of an SE3 coming early next year which would feature 
>> a 6.1 inch screen and retain the touch ID. I can't imagine how large the 
>> phone would be since there's going to be a home button, but probably the 
>> same size at the pro max.
>> 
>>>> On 10/14/2020 8:05 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
>>> Hello Everyone,
>>> 
>>> Well, I was wrong.  I truly thought that Apple would include a 
>>> fingerprint sensor on at least one of its devices in the iPhone 12 series.
>>> 
>>> I watched the entire presentation and could not help thinking, at its 
>>> conclusion, "But all I wanted was Touch ID."
>>> 
>>> I am so disappointed.  It's almost enough to make me leave the Apple 
>>> orchard; but not quite.
>>> 
>>> You know, I wouldn't have found the lack of a fingerprint sensor on 
>>> the new iPhone 12 series so startlingly disappointing if I were not 
>>> using a fantastic in-screen fingerprint reader on my Samsung Galaxy 
>>> phone, every single day.  I mean, to my mind, if Samsung can do it, 
>>> and do it extremely well, I might add, then why not Apple?
>>> 
>>> Regardless, the proverbial seeds for this year's crop have been sewn 
>>> and we must reap, what we must.
>>> 
>>> I definitely see a new battery for my beloved 8 Plus in my near future.
>>> 
>>> I don't know, I may grab an S E but will attempt to hold onto my 
>>> beloved 8 Plus for a little longer.
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
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