I am on AT&T. I’m pretty sure that 5g is not in my town yet. Anyway, the cell  
connection  is poor in this area. So I will wait until the 5G Service  is 
available everywhere before I get a 5G compatible  phone. I was looking for the 
12 to have an in screen fingerprint sensor. But being that the face ID  on my 
11 promax is working so excellently and there is no in screen fingerprint 
sensor on the 12, I will stay where I am for the time being.

Juan



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On Oct 15, 2020, at 1:57 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:

I am with you on 5G, Les and Alan. I think it’s a bunch of height, especially 
Verizon and their MM wave which is vanishingly difficult to actually connect 
to. So they’re ripping you off yet again. It’s interesting that both they and 
AT&T are giving a little subsidy on the iPhone. They must be desperate. I think 
the SE2 could be very compelling. That’s especially if you like a home button.
I’m sticking with my 10 R.


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> On Oct 14, 2020, at 5:23 PM, Les Kriegler <kriegle...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Alan,
> I am also with you and Richard. I will share my experience in the hopes it 
> will help others. I have been a Verizon customer for many years. As a result, 
> I am on a Loyalty Plan for individuals 55 and older. I was seriously 
> considering the iPhone 12 Mini and had a lengthy conversation with a Verizon 
> rep. Then I asked about how this would affect our plan. I learned that if I 
> purchased a 5G capable phone, I would have to switch to a 5g plan. Our bill 
> would go up by $54 per month. It gets worse. I live in a town which does not 
> have 5G yet. No way to tell when that might come here. So I would be paying 
> an extra $54 per month for a service I cannot use. Guess what I'm doing? I'm 
> now looking at either the SEor the iPhone 11 pro. I would welcome any 
> comments pro or con about either phone. For me, 5G is out. Even if it were 
> available, I don't think it's worth an extra $54 per month. Now, this could 
> change, but it does not matter to me at this point.
> Best Regards,
> 
> Les
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Alan 
> Lemly
> Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2020 4:43 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Review iPhone 12 series??
> 
> I'm with Richard here. Be aware that all the hoopla about 5G will require use 
> of cellular data and I suspect that at some point, carriers will be charging 
> accordingly to recover whatever hardware they've priced low to get you into 
> their fold. I still intend to primarily use wifi since I'm using my iPhone at 
> home most of the time and don't intend to increase the capacity of my 
> cellular plan whether using 4G or 5G.
> 
> Alan Lemly
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> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2020 8:48 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Review iPhone 12 series??
> 
> I usually follow the motto that if it looks too good to be true, it probably 
> is.
> What kind of contract commitments do they want with these amazing pricings?
> 
> If it locks you into a 2 year contract at a given level, I'd make sure I 
> understand the possible down sides.
> If it is right for a person, then that's great!
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
> himself,  and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
> granting grace to others, I ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
> Herbert
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Wayne 
> Merritt
> Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2020 6:45 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Review iPhone 12 series??
> 
> For those looking to upgrade to the new phones, I found some aggressive 
> pricing from AT&T and Verizon mentioned in the Apple Store app, like an $800 
> credit from AT&T. They really want to get everyone on 5G, and same from 
> Verizon it looks like. I wasn't planning on getting one, but this may change 
> my mind. I've never heard of major carriers practically giving away the new 
> iPhone before.
> 
> Best,
> Wayne Merritt
> 
>> On 10/13/20, Kelly Pierce <kellyt...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I always go for the iPhone with the latest processor so I have the 
>> maximum available iOS updates.  I like the possibility of wireless 
>> charging. If I git a 12 it will be the mini. I like a smaller size for 
>> easy one-handed use, and I have no need for the camera system on the 
>> pro.
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>>> 
>>> How did you find iPhone 12 series? Any recommendation or suggestion 
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>>> buy iPhone
>>> 12
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