I don't understand that why apple is not providing charger adopter and earphones/headphones? They claim that they didn't include these to reduce carbon emission. Are they kidding man or am I missing something else? If so one can imagine that in 2030 there release an iPhone 20, and will state that we didn't include headset/phone because we care about the environment and assume that buyer already have phone. ☺️ ☺️
On Friday, 16 October 2020 05:41:04 UTC+5:30, simon wrote: > > But how is it that you know verizons 5g mm band is difficult to connect to > when as yet it hasn't been released > And the iPhone 12 range hasn't even been pre ordered yet! > > I do so love how people know how well these things work when they either > haven’t tried them or the products are not even available. > > > Why don't people just wait for the devices and networks to be rolled out > to the world and give it a go before you start bad mouthing things > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: vip...@googlegroups.com <javascript:> <vip...@googlegroups.com > <javascript:>> On Behalf Of Mary Otten > Sent: Friday, 16 October 2020 6:57 am > To: vip...@googlegroups.com <javascript:> > Subject: Re: Review iPhone 12 series?? > > I am with you on 5G, Les and Alan. I think it’s a bunch of height, > especially Verizon and their MM wave which is vanishingly difficult to > actually connect to. So they’re ripping you off yet again. It’s interesting > that both they and AT&T are giving a little subsidy on the iPhone. They > must be desperate. I think the SE2 could be very compelling. That’s > especially if you like a home button. > I’m sticking with my 10 R. > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Oct 14, 2020, at 5:23 PM, Les Kriegler <krieg...@gmail.com > <javascript:>> wrote: > > > > Hi Alan, > > I am also with you and Richard. I will share my experience in the hopes > it will help others. I have been a Verizon customer for many years. As a > result, I am on a Loyalty Plan for individuals 55 and older. I was > seriously considering the iPhone 12 Mini and had a lengthy conversation > with a Verizon rep. Then I asked about how this would affect our plan. I > learned that if I purchased a 5G capable phone, I would have to switch to a > 5g plan. Our bill would go up by $54 per month. It gets worse. I live in a > town which does not have 5G yet. No way to tell when that might come here. > So I would be paying an extra $54 per month for a service I cannot use. > Guess what I'm doing? I'm now looking at either the SEor the iPhone 11 pro. > I would welcome any comments pro or con about either phone. For me, 5G is > out. Even if it were available, I don't think it's worth an extra $54 per > month. Now, this could change, but it does not matter to me at this point. > > Best Regards, > > > > Les > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: vip...@googlegroups.com <javascript:> <vip...@googlegroups.com > <javascript:>> On Behalf Of > > Alan Lemly > > Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2020 4:43 PM > > To: vip...@googlegroups.com <javascript:> > > Subject: RE: Review iPhone 12 series?? > > > > I'm with Richard here. Be aware that all the hoopla about 5G will > require use of cellular data and I suspect that at some point, carriers > will be charging accordingly to recover whatever hardware they've priced > low to get you into their fold. I still intend to primarily use wifi since > I'm using my iPhone at home most of the time and don't intend to increase > the capacity of my cellular plan whether using 4G or 5G. > > > > Alan Lemly > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: vip...@googlegroups.com <javascript:> [mailto: > vip...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>] On > > Behalf Of Richard Turner > > Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2020 8:48 AM > > To: vip...@googlegroups.com <javascript:> > > Subject: RE: Review iPhone 12 series?? > > > > I usually follow the motto that if it looks too good to be true, it > probably is. > > What kind of contract commitments do they want with these amazing > pricings? > > > > If it locks you into a 2 year contract at a given level, I'd make sure I > understand the possible down sides. > > If it is right for a person, then that's great! > > > > > > > > Richard > > "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must > > pass himself, and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of > > ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have > > regretted not granting grace to others, I ve never once regretted > > extending it.)" - Edward Herbert > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: vip...@googlegroups.com <javascript:> <vip...@googlegroups.com > <javascript:>> On Behalf Of > > Wayne Merritt > > Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2020 6:45 AM > > To: vip...@googlegroups.com <javascript:> > > Subject: Re: Review iPhone 12 series?? > > > > For those looking to upgrade to the new phones, I found some aggressive > pricing from AT&T and Verizon mentioned in the Apple Store app, like an > $800 credit from AT&T. They really want to get everyone on 5G, and same > from Verizon it looks like. I wasn't planning on getting one, but this may > change my mind. 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