Hi, the dictation is a microphone button which is available any time that the keyboard is up. It's not technically Siri. Now, Siri is the virtual assistant which can send text messages as well, but it's an interactive thing. I hope that clears it up.

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On 10/25/2012 7:24 AM, Brian Miller wrote:
Thanks Wayne for this summary report... A quick question for someone who is
still waiting for his iPhone V and hasn't played with Siri yet...  What is
the difference between dictation and Siri?  Is dictation a separate,
pre-installed app?  How do you know which one to use?

Thanks,

Brian Miller


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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Wayne Merritt
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 11:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: My thoughts on Siri and the iPhone 5

I was skeptical of Siri when I heard of it last year with the
4S. I stuck with my iPhone 4 and wondered what all the fuss
was about. It sounded interesting, but nothing I would really
use. Since I have gotten an iPhone 5 2 weeks ago, I have
started using Siri and the dictation feature on the virtual
keyboard a lot more. I still have times when the dictation or
Siri will misunderstand me. Sometimes it has happened 3 or 4
times in a row with Siri and I gave up. With dictation, it
happens the first time but the second time it gets what I'm
saying correct. I use it most often when filling out the
mobile web form to schedule taxi service with my local cab
company. I used to use the Apple Bluetooth keyboard for this
task, but now I can just speak my phrases for what I want to
fill in the various fields, or use the virtual keyboard to
type in corrections or short items in the fields. Last night
was the crowning moment for me and when I knew that Siri was
going to be very helpful. I was riding with my fiance and we
were trying to make our way back from going out to eat. She's
someone who relies heavily on GPS. She pulled over and when
she was typing in the GPS our destination, i asked Siri to
direct us to my home address.
I recall hearing on a podcast recently that you need to turn
VoiceOver off when in the maps app and when getting spoken
directions. I did this, and soon afterward, we started
getting exact directions. We even went off route since we
were not able to make a certain turn, and the voice caught it
and redirected us back to the original route. Both my fiance
and I were very impressed with the task and Siri's
performance in maps. It's a nice feeling to be able to ask
Siri how to get to a certain address and be told exactly
where to go. Siri and I are not communicating perfectly all
of the time yet, but we're getting there, and possibilities
are starting to form for me for things I can use Siri and
dictation for.

when I heard of people last year that used dictation, I found
myself asking, "Why not just type in the item you lazy
person?" Now though, it is so much easier to say what you
want typed in and then do short corrections, rather than
messing with typing things in. I am not to the point of
dictating medium to long text messages correctly every time,
but slowly getting there.

Regards,
Wayne Merritt

On 10/24/12, Raul A. Gallegos <r...@raulgallegos.com> wrote:
Yes I agree. In fact if I am going to use Siri for a lot of
interaction, I disable Voice Over. Now there are cases
where you get
more information displayed on the screen. For example if I ask Siri
what the population of Chicago is, she will tell me, but not by
speaking it, instead, she displays the information. So, in
this case y ou have to use Voice Over.
However for the weather, scheduling reminders, meetings,
making calls,
or sending texts, I definitely turn off Voice Over as it
gets annoying
otherwise.

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On 10/24/2012 2:23 PM, Chris wrote:
Oh ok I like the idea of having no VoiceOver when I use Siri. It
seems more logical and more like a natural conversation this way.


Christopher Hallsworth

On 24/10/2012 17:26, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
Hi Chris,

I use SIRI with my iPhone 4S and Voiceover turned on all the time
both for asking it to dial numbers, for asking questions and for
dictation. It works fine, only thing is that if Voiceover is not
turned on SIRI will automatically listen if, for example, you say
"Text Christopher Hallsworth"
and if you not follow right away with what you want the
text message
to say, SIRI will say something ike "What do you want to say to
Christopher Hallsworth". If you have Voiceover on you
have to double
tap or press the home key again to make SIRI listen, if
Voiceover is
off you can simply speak your message and SIRI will hear it.


Regards,
Sieghard


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Behalf Of Chris
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 9:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: My thoughts on Siri and the iPhone 5

Ok, this is where the iPod Touch or iPad or iPad Mini
comes in, as
at least I can try Siri with VoiceOver before committing to an
iPhone 4s or 5.


Christopher Hallsworth

On 24/10/2012 16:15, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
Hello Chris.

Before you buy your  phone 5, you should try Siri with
Voice Over.

Kawal.

On Oct 24, 2012, at 4:11 PM, Chris
<christopher...@gmail.com> wrote:

I tried Siri on a carer's iPhone 5 today. What I can't
get over is
the
fact it just recognized my voice instantly without
training. I said
hello, it said hello back. Then I said how are you? It
said I'm very
well. I then asked what the weather is like. It then
brought up the
Weather app. The carer is fully sighted so of course does
not need
VoiceOver. But she told me about the Weather app opening.
I just find this amazing because I tried a few third party Voice
Dictation apps, namely Vokul, on my iPhone 4, and they do
not like
my unusually high voice at all. Yet Siri does!
Just some thought from a prospective Siri user.
I also felt her iPhone 5. It's really nice and feel I
can use it
no
problem.

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