Yeah... I think it may have been me or at least one of the folks who said it 
was gone. Obviously, as I've played with iOS 14.1 more, I quickly found out 
that ... was in fact not the case.
It is gone in some circumstances. Being able to use Seeing AI again without VO 
getting stuck on the hide button comes to mind, but yeah, it's still showing up 
all over the place. Along with the other bugs previously reported having to do 
with text editing and at least for me, the dictation button being all flickery.
I dropped Apple Accessibility a bunch of notes letting them know about these 
continued issues as  I encountered them,  but haven't even gotten the standard 
"your message has been received." Much less an actual response from someone.
 Who knows, maybe they're just swamped by similar emails or they figure we know 
that they know that they know and what's the point in responding at this 
point...
Either way, it sucks.

Cristóbal

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And when somebody mentioned that this bug is gone I was  surprised because it 
seems on Beta lists people even say it's still present in iOS 14.2.

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Harry, I have not experienced the focus issue in Mail. I did with IOS 13, but 
no longer with version 14.
Best,

Les

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VoiceOver focus still jumps up the list when deleting threads in Mail on iPhone 
SE 2020 Harry

> On 20 Oct 2020, at 21:23, Cristóbal Muñoz <cristobalm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> The focus bug does appear to be fixed (thank God), but it looks like the 
> dictation and text editing bugs are still present.
> 
> 
> Cristóbal
> 
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> Wayne Merritt
> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 1:00 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: IOS 14.1 is out
> 
> For those interested, here are the AppleVis notes on VoiceOver fixes, bugs, 
> and general fixes.
> Apple has today released iOS 14.1 and iPadOS 14.1 to the public.
> 
> For blind and low vision users, our preliminary testing suggests that Apple 
> has resolved the most critical issues present in the initial releases of iOS 
> and iPadOS 14. However, there are also a couple new bugs in today's releases.
> 
> Fixes for Blind and Low Vision Users in iOS 14.1 and iPadOS 14.1 VoiceOver 
> focus is no longer unstable in Safari webpages, HTML views, and some apps.
> VoiceOver speech no longer has a lag that made VoiceOver feel less responsive 
> when using some voices.
> VoiceOver voices will no longer on occasions announce punctuation such as 
> apostrophes and quotation marks when they should not be spoken.
> You can now consistently locate by swiping the Done button when editing the 
> App Library on iOS.
> You can now consistently locate by swiping the Done and Add Widget buttons 
> when editing the Today View.
> New Bugs for Blind and Low Vision Users in iOS 14.1 and iPadOS 14.1 When 
> using the VoiceOver rotor to drag a widget on the Today View, focus can 
> spontaneously move to the Home screen and it is then not possible to navigate 
> back to the Today View When editing a video in the Photos app, VoiceOver 
> users can no longer move the start and end positions on the time scrubber by 
> flicking up or down on them With VoiceOver enabled, swiping from left to 
> right with three fingers in a folder takes you to the Today screen Because 
> iOS 14.1 and iPadOS 14.1 were not available to test before today's release, 
> we were not able to check for fixes, changes or regressions ahead of time. 
> Consequently, it is very likely that there are additional fixes and possibly 
> more new bugs.
> 
> Accordingly, If you encounter any additional fixes or bugs during your own 
> use of iOS 14.1 or iPadOS 14.1, please let us know by posting a comment below.
> 
> iOS 14.1 Release Notes
> Apple's release notes for iOS 14.1, shared by 9to5Mac, list the following 
> improvements:
> 
> Adds support for 10-bit HDR video playback and edit in Photos for 
> iPhone 8 and later Addresses an issue where some widgets, folders, and 
> icons were showing up in reduced size on the Home Screen Addresses an 
> issue where dragging widgets on the Home Screen could remove apps from 
> folders Fixes an issue where some emails in Mail were sent from an 
> incorrect alias Fixes an issue that could prevent incoming calls from 
> displaying region information Fixes an issue on some devices where 
> selecting zoomed display mode and an alphanumeric passcode could 
> result in the Lock Screen emergency call button overlapping with the 
> text input box Addresses an issue where some users were occasionally 
> unable to download or add songs to their library while viewing an 
> album or playlist Fixes an issue that could prevent zeroes from 
> appearing in Calculator Resolves an issue where streaming video 
> resolution could temporarily be reduced at the start of playback Fixes 
> an issue that prevented setting up a family member’s Apple Watch for 
> some users Resolves an issue where the Apple Watch case material was 
> displayed incorrectly in the Apple Watch app Addresses an issue in the 
> Files app that could cause some MDM-managed cloud service providers to 
> incorrectly display content as unavailable Improves compatibility with 
> Ubiquiti wireless access points
> 
> Be well,
> Wayne Merritt
> 
>> On 10/20/20, Gordon <gor...@gordonradio.com> wrote:
>> I'm not sure if this applies to everyone or if it's just the 12, but 
>> you're all welcome to go see if you have it. If so, some bugs might 
>> have been fixed in this release.
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