Thank you 
Arnold, glad I could be of some help.

Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone!

> On Nov 20, 2020, at 11:58 AM, Arnold Schmidt <als5...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Well,  by god, Dianne, that is a way to fix it! Now, there just has to be a 
> way to turn off image description globally in the way that swiping up turns 
> it off. It is off in settings already, but that swiping up when it is in the 
> rotor does something else. I will write to Apple Accessibility later today 
> and tell them what you figured out. Maybe they will then know how to get 
> turning it off in settings will really turn it off. Thank you very much. 
> Arnold Schmidt 
> 
> 
> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 20
> 
> On Nov 20, 2020, at 7:01 AM, Diane Giannetti <diane1lu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>   Sorry, but that message went out before I had a chance to fix it. I don’t 
> get annoyed with that nice guy Or whatever, but would prefer not to have it 
> if I could have the option. I put this on  before. The option I found worked 
> is to put describe image In your rotor.  Rotor  has it where you can put it 
> in there and when it’s in there it says if you Flick up or down it’ll say on 
> or off. So if you are in some thing that you do not want that to say, just 
> click it off. You don’t have to go in it, but you just go to where it says 
> off and you will be fine. At least, that is what works for me. Let me know if 
> anyone tries it and good luck.
> 
> Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone!
> 
>>> On Nov 20, 2020, at 6:42 AM, Christopher Chaltain <chalt...@gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> I kind of feel the same way. It’s not like I have to wait until VoiceOver 
>> stops speaking before I can touch or swipe to the next thing, and it is kind 
>> of interesting to know what others are seeing when they look at their phone. 
>> That being said, I get it when people are annoyed by what they consider to 
>> be frivolous chatter, which is why this should be configurable, and at least 
>> in the case of image recognition, Apple’s intent was to make it 
>> configurable. Therefore, if you’re still hearing this text after you’ve 
>> tried to turn off settings like image recognition then it should definitely 
>> be reported to Apple.
>>  
>> --
>> Christopher (AKA CJ)
>> Chaltain at Gmail
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Angie 
>> Nutt
>> Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 5:09 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky
>>  
>> I don’t find it intrusive either; if anything it’s fascinating. I wonder 
>> whether it’s trying to recognise the icons on whatever screen I’m on.
>>  
>> All the best
>> Angie
>> 
>> 
>> On 18 Nov 2020, at 22:26, Wayne Merritt <wcmerr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>  
>> I haven't really noticed this until people started talking about it.
>> I've gotten the "sky" information in an icon in the Sirius/XM app. I
>> have an iPhone 11 with iOS 14.2. Usually I ignore the sky info since
>> it is not what I'm listening for and extra information. Plus, it does
>> not seem that intrusive to me, just a short blurb added onto whatever
>> I'm doing. I can see how it would get annoying though.
>> 
>> Be well,
>> Wayne Merritt
>> 
>> On 11/18/20, Deb Cook Lewis <deblewi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Yeah I’m following up on this. All the theories are kind of blown for the
>> older phones.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of
>> Arnold Schmidt
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 1:22 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Deb, I was hoping I had saved this message so that I could reply to it. If
>> you haven't already done so, I would urge you, and anybody else running 14.2
>> on an older phone,   to contact Apple Accessibility, being that you have
>> experienced these  extra descriptions  on a phone that does not have the
>> image description stuff. It may be something about 14.2, and the image
>> feature, in reality, is not the problem. It will be interesting to know just
>> what it is.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Arnold Schmidt
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 20
>> 
>> 
>> On Nov 17, 2020, at 9:32 PM, Deb Cook Lewis <deblewi...@gmail.com
>> <mailto:deblewi...@gmail.com> > wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Yeah that makes sense except that my phone doesn’t even have the recognition
>> mode because it’s too old although it did get 14.2.
>> 
>> Every time I call I’m holding 90 minutes before someone answers, so I’ll
>> probably just live with this, but it is truly annoying.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> <viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of
>> Arnold Schmidt
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 6:20 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I just talked to somebody at Apple Accessibility, and he does think that it
>> might be some kind of problem with image description. When I shared the
>> screen and showed him examples of what it is doing, he said that yes, it was
>> trying to describe an image that was there. Turning on image recognition
>> gave a better description of the image, but turning it off,  as it were,
>> didn't turn it completely off. He is going to talk to somebody about it,
>> being that he was able to duplicate the problem on his device, and will
>> allegedly get back to me on Thursday, early evening. He said that the others
>> who are experiencing this should report it to them, being that  the more
>> complaints they have about a given issue might make it seem more important.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Arnold Schmidt
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 20
>> 
>> 
>> On Nov 17, 2020, at 6:59 PM, Christopher Chaltain <chalt...@gmail.com
>> <mailto:chalt...@gmail.com> > wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Isn’t this the new image recognition feature in IOS 14? Check out Settings
>> -> Accessibility -> VoiceOver -> VoiceOver Recognition.
>> 
>> 
>> 
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>> Chaltain at Gmail
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> <viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of
>> Arnold Schmidt
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 4:57 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I am getting it on a lot of screens. It is as if VoiceOver is attempting to
>> describe an image. Besides night sky which seems to be its favorite, it has
>> told me such things as adult, moon, document, sunglasses, and baseball hat.
>> I have everything that remotely might be related to images, emojis, speak
>> screen, etc turned off, and it still occurs. This is on an SE 20, running
>> 14.2. I wonder if it is only happening on the SE 20 phones? I have tried
>> twice today to get in touch with Apple Accessibility, waiting long periods
>> both times before disconnecting, nobody answered. I will keep trying.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Arnold Schmidt
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 20
>> 
>> 
>> On Nov 17, 2020, at 2:28 PM, Viola Bentson <fireka...@gmail.com
>> <mailto:fireka...@gmail.com> > wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I do too and it’s irritating hope someone can tell me how to turn it off.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Viola
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> <viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of
>> Reg Sullivan
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 11:08 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I’m seeing this in other places as well and have no idea what it means?
>> 
>> “night sky”
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Anyone out there know what it represents?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Regards…..Reg
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Noe Villeda
>> Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 2:06 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hello Listers,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> What is the night sky that always shows up when I have my iPhone locked?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Also, is there a way to take it out of the screen, so it doesn’t show along
>> with flashlight and battery usage?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Noe
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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