It's no more or less work than to go through Background ap refresh, privacy settings or checking for which apps you want to allow cellular data. It's a one-time thing, you spend 5 minutes or so to do this and then you are done.
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Andy Baracco Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 3:39 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky That sounds like an awful lot of work. Andy ----- Original Message ----- From: Donna Casteen<mailto:mermaid71...@gmail.com> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 3:25 PM Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky If people would take the time & do what has been suggested, rather gripe & complain, the problem would have been solved days ago for you. Here goes once again.... Go to settings, accessibility, voiceover, rotor & add screen recognition & image description. Why do this? In case you should find yourself in a situation in which these controls would be helpful. With these controls in the rotor, they are easily accessible, literally right at your fingertips. Using the flick gesture these controls can be toggled On/Off in the rotor. If you Do Not foresee yourself using these controls, make sure to remove the controls from the rotor, so that you don’t accidentally turn the controls on. (For those with older phones, in the rotor setting add images & describe images to the rotor, by tapping on each item to select it. By turning the rotor to these controls, a flick will toggle the controls on/off.) Now go to settings, accessibility, voiceover, voice recognition. Tap to open image description. Here you can turn off image description, change how sensitive content is displayed & in which apps, if any, you want to use image description. Go back to voice recognition. Tap on screen recognition. Here you can turn off screen recognition, choose which apps, if any, you want to use screen recognition. (I have all apps unselected) Go back to voice recognition & tap to toggle text recognition on/off. When Off text in pictures will Not be recognized. Go back to voice recognition, tap on Feedback Style. Here you can choose how images & text are presented to you; by speak, sound or none. This should solve the “night sky” spoken problem. Donna will Well, by god, Dianne, that is a way to fix it! Now, there just has to be a way to turn off image description globally in the way that swiping up turns it off. It is off in settings already, but that swiping up when it is in the rotor does something else. I will write to Apple Accessibility later today and tell them what you figured out. Maybe they will then know how to get turning it off in settings will really turn it off. Thank you very much. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 20 On Nov 20, 2020, at 7:01 AM, Diane Giannetti <diane1lu...@gmail.com> wrote: Sorry, but that message went out before I had a chance to fix it. I don’t get annoyed with that nice guy Or whatever, but would prefer not to have it if I could have the option. I put this on before. The option I found worked is to put describe image In your rotor. Rotor has it where you can put it in there and when it’s in there it says if you Flick up or down it’ll say on or off. So if you are in some thing that you do not want that to say, just click it off. You don’t have to go in it, but you just go to where it says off and you will be fine. At least, that is what works for me. Let me know if anyone tries it and good luck. Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone! On Nov 20, 2020, at 6:42 AM, Christopher Chaltain <chalt...@gmail.com> wrote: I kind of feel the same way. It’s not like I have to wait until VoiceOver stops speaking before I can touch or swipe to the next thing, and it is kind of interesting to know what others are seeing when they look at their phone. That being said, I get it when people are annoyed by what they consider to be frivolous chatter, which is why this should be configurable, and at least in the case of image recognition, Apple’s intent was to make it configurable. Therefore, if you’re still hearing this text after you’ve tried to turn off settings like image recognition then it should definitely be reported to Apple. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Gmail From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Angie Nutt Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 5:09 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky I don’t find it intrusive either; if anything it’s fascinating. I wonder whether it’s trying to recognise the icons on whatever screen I’m on. All the best Angie On 18 Nov 2020, at 22:26, Wayne Merritt <wcmerr...@gmail.com<mailto:wcmerr...@gmail.com>> wrote: I haven't really noticed this until people started talking about it. I've gotten the "sky" information in an icon in the Sirius/XM app. I have an iPhone 11 with iOS 14.2. Usually I ignore the sky info since it is not what I'm listening for and extra information. Plus, it does not seem that intrusive to me, just a short blurb added onto whatever I'm doing. I can see how it would get annoying though. Be well, Wayne Merritt On 11/18/20, Deb Cook Lewis <deblewi...@gmail.com<mailto:deblewi...@gmail.com>> wrote: Yeah I’m following up on this. All the theories are kind of blown for the older phones. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 1:22 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky Deb, I was hoping I had saved this message so that I could reply to it. If you haven't already done so, I would urge you, and anybody else running 14.2 on an older phone, to contact Apple Accessibility, being that you have experienced these extra descriptions on a phone that does not have the image description stuff. It may be something about 14.2, and the image feature, in reality, is not the problem. It will be interesting to know just what it is. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 20 On Nov 17, 2020, at 9:32 PM, Deb Cook Lewis <deblewi...@gmail.com<mailto:deblewi...@gmail.com> <mailto:deblewi...@gmail.com> > wrote: Yeah that makes sense except that my phone doesn’t even have the recognition mode because it’s too old although it did get 14.2. Every time I call I’m holding 90 minutes before someone answers, so I’ll probably just live with this, but it is truly annoying. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com><mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 6:20 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com><mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky I just talked to somebody at Apple Accessibility, and he does think that it might be some kind of problem with image description. When I shared the screen and showed him examples of what it is doing, he said that yes, it was trying to describe an image that was there. Turning on image recognition gave a better description of the image, but turning it off, as it were, didn't turn it completely off. He is going to talk to somebody about it, being that he was able to duplicate the problem on his device, and will allegedly get back to me on Thursday, early evening. He said that the others who are experiencing this should report it to them, being that the more complaints they have about a given issue might make it seem more important. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 20 On Nov 17, 2020, at 6:59 PM, Christopher Chaltain <chalt...@gmail.com<mailto:chalt...@gmail.com> <mailto:chalt...@gmail.com> > wrote: Isn’t this the new image recognition feature in IOS 14? Check out Settings -> Accessibility -> VoiceOver -> VoiceOver Recognition. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Gmail From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com><mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 4:57 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com><mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky I am getting it on a lot of screens. It is as if VoiceOver is attempting to describe an image. Besides night sky which seems to be its favorite, it has told me such things as adult, moon, document, sunglasses, and baseball hat. I have everything that remotely might be related to images, emojis, speak screen, etc turned off, and it still occurs. This is on an SE 20, running 14.2. I wonder if it is only happening on the SE 20 phones? I have tried twice today to get in touch with Apple Accessibility, waiting long periods both times before disconnecting, nobody answered. I will keep trying. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 20 On Nov 17, 2020, at 2:28 PM, Viola Bentson <fireka...@gmail.com<mailto:fireka...@gmail.com> <mailto:fireka...@gmail.com> > wrote: I do too and it’s irritating hope someone can tell me how to turn it off. Viola From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com><mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Reg Sullivan Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 11:08 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com><mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky I’m seeing this in other places as well and have no idea what it means? “night sky” Anyone out there know what it represents? Regards…..Reg From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com><mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Noe Villeda Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 2:06 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com><mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky Hello Listers, What is the night sky that always shows up when I have my iPhone locked? 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