One old curmudgeon to another, I get it completely. Living in Oregon, I would never even think of it outside of my own yard.
Now, as for keeping your ears warm, have you checked the safe temperature range for these bad boys? You are probably OK in Austin, but someone in the north, or in Canada, etc., would probably damage them unless they had a good hood on, which of course would defeat the transparency mode…. Since you have a dog guide, you are much safer than those of us who use canes in that case anyway. Enjoy, Richard Ralph's Observation: It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to realize that you are in a hurry. My web site, www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Pete Nalda Sent: Monday, March 29, 2021 10:51 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Apple AirPod Max, a moral etiquette question about wearing in public when active outside Well, it looks like I’m probably the only one stubborn enough To even try to want to wear them about, but Austin does have dedicated bike lines, and as far as somebody write down the sidewalk and hit me I’ll guarantee you with my girth, that little bicycle is going to go down! Another thing I wanted to mention about why am so hell bent crazy over wearing the Max around over the Pro’s, is battery life. Being like 5 times longer! Another luxurious feature that you have is instant control over content volume, and for that matter, content play back, no Siri or pinching needed! So to me it’s also a UX feature. But I’m glad that this has brought such a vital discussion! As for the afterShox, or bone conduction, no way for me, as I am just too picky about Fidelity, even with voices, and phone calls! And the other sporty options I would not pursue it unless they had both transparency and noise canceling. But I might consider going back to just using the pros to run around with. I can always leave the big boys at home, if I think I’m going to encounter weather, although, when it was cold, they did keep my ears warm! So for me, it boils down to the convenience of having direct control of volume, and content play back.In other words I guess I’m just an old curmudgeon who chooses to live on the edge for his own comfort and convenience. Like I said I’m enjoying the conversation Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates Louie P (Pete) Nalda Facebook.com/lpnalda Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda Twitter: @lpnalda On Mar 29, 2021, at 12:34 PM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote: Great, so you will be dry when you get run over; how nice, 😉 Just kidding, I know you folks are smarter than to try crossing a street with these on. But, what about bicycles? Later, Richard Ralph's Observation: It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to realize that you are in a hurry. My web site, www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com> -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Monday, March 29, 2021 10:29 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Apple AirPod Max, a moral etiquette question about wearing in public when active outside Yes, I'd definitely not encourage anyone to take these head phones anywhere if they're worried about them getting wet, but as Pete says here in Austin there are plenty of days every year where you can safely take these outside and absolutely not worry about them getting rained on. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Outlook -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Pete Nalda Sent: Monday, March 29, 2021 11:53 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Apple AirPod Max, a moral etiquette question about wearing in public when active outside Yeah. Good points about water resistance, though, here in Austin, it’s kind of hard to get caught in a downpour. It can even be cloudy and not rain Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates Louie P (Pete) Nalda Facebook.com/lpnalda Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda Twitter: @lpnalda > On Mar 29, 2021, at 11:34 AM, Andy Baracco > <w...@socal.rr.com<mailto:w...@socal.rr.com>> wrote: > > I do not plan to wear them outdoors in public because I am afraid of someone > trying to take them from me. Also, I do not believe that they are water > resistant. > > Andy > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pete Nalda" > <lpna...@gmail.com<mailto:lpna...@gmail.com>> > To: <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> > Sent: Monday, March 29, 2021 1:14 AM > Subject: Apple AirPod Max, a moral etiquette question about wearing in > public when active outside > > > Ok. Given the fact transparency is so well done, are any VI folks here brave > enough to wear them walking around? 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