I am talking about the blind down menu which has various options. Sent from my iPhone by Alison may 0777 315 8181
> On 7 Apr 2021, at 5:27 am, Janet Bell <tagli...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi what menu are you talking about? Janet > >> On 06/04/2021 21:58, CJ & AA MAY wrote: >> Once I too found that voice-over wasn't telling me the screen messages but >> then discovered that I'd accidentally unticked accessibility in the menu. >> Alison >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Janet >> Bell >> Sent: 05 April 2021 17:36 >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor >> >> Hi Mich I get that but then no sound whatsoever. my phone has gone into >> landscape at this point and it doesn't say blind drive either so maybe I >> have the name wrong but I don't think so. Janet >> >>> On 05/04/2021 17:32, Mich Verrier wrote: >>> In the blind drive game you will get a prompt to turne the roder to derrect >>> touch. From Mich. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of >>> Joshua Hendrickson >>> Sent: April 5, 2021 12:18 PM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor >>> >>> Maybe I've never seen anything about direct touch since I usually just >>> type in text edit boxes. Direct touch seems like it wouldn't be good >>> for a blind person to use and wouldn't be of much help to us. >>> >>> On 4/5/21, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> wrote: >>>> What I find interesting about that rotor item, now that you reminded >>>> me it was there, it was selected on my rotor items, but it does not >>>> show up in the rotor unless you are using an app that does not use >>>> the standard text entry. >>>> But in iOS 14.4.x apple fixed it so you just ignore VoiceOver when it >>>> says Direct Touch Area and keep typing. >>>> I have never found a need to turn the rotor when VoiceOver Says >>>> Direct Touch area. Things just work. >>>> >>>> Do you have an example where you have turned the rotor to Direct >>>> Touch in iOS 1.4.4? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Richard >>>> >>>> Ralph's Observation: It is a mistake to allow any mechanical >>>> object<>to realize that you are in a hurry. >>>> >>>> >>>> My web site, www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf >>>> Of Brad Snyder >>>> Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 8:44 AM >>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor >>>> >>>> Direct touch can indeed be added or removed from the rotor. >>>> On my iPhone 12 pro, running iOS 14.4.2, direct touch is the last >>>> item in the rotor category. I am able to toggle it on or off as desired. >>>> - Brad - >>>> >>>> On Apr 5, 2021, at 10:20, Richard Turner >>>> <richardturne...@outlook.com<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>> I do not believe it is something you add or remove from the rotor. >>>> It is an Apple thing to “help” with accessiblility. >>>> If you are on iOS 14.4 it should not be a problem. >>>> You should be able to just go ahead and type even though it says >>>> “direct touch area.” >>>> If it won’t let you type, turn the rotor and it will be there and you >>>> flick up to turn it on and you should be good to go. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Richard >>>> >>>> Ralph's Observation: It is a mistake to allow any mechanical >>>> object<>to realize that you are in a hurry. >>>> >>>> >>>> My web site, >>>> www.turner42.com<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=h >>>> ttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C9edf7a6fce454735d61 >>>> a08d8f849a81b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C6375323425 >>>> 18223178%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIi >>>> LCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=QjD%2BD6MmWNpdVqq6BWEP8P4 >>>> 7IGT3jLNUd%2BjmqQX5DSo%3D&reserved=0> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >>>> <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf >>>> Of Esther >>>> Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 7:32 AM >>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >>>> Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor >>>> >>>> no, I was not in and edit field. Esther an edit field. Esther >>>> >>>> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Apr 5, 2021, at 8:49 AM, Robert Doc Wright >>>> <yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com<mailto:yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Are you in an edit field wen you are looking for it? >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: Esther<mailto:elevegn...@sbcglobal.net> >>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >>>> Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 6:23 AM >>>> Subject: adding direct touch to the rotor >>>> >>>> hi, everyone, I am having trouble keeping direct touch added to the rotor. >>>> Everything else I want is in there, but for some reason it does not >>>> stay there. I don't know what I am doing wrong. I didn't think there >>>> was a save button or anything. 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