There's a lot more to an Apple product then just whether it includes a charger 
or not. Of course, if this is a deal breaker for you then by all means switch 
to another product, but I don't think there's anything wrong with people asking 
for a charger with their product. It's perfectly understandable to me that for 
the price Apple is charging for their products one could expect a charger. I 
can also see where people can want a charger without having to change to a new 
device and ecosystem.

Of course, Apple may not listen or may have already made the calculation that 
the few sales they lose will be more then made up by how much they save by not 
including chargers or the good will they get by being more environmentally 
friendly.

As I've said before, I like Apple's move myself, but I see where people are 
coming from, and I don't think people should be told to just buy another device 
or be happy with whatever Apple gives them.

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-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Janet 
Bell
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2021 5:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple getting cheapq

one other thing I'd like to say is that if you buy an apple product ask if 
there is a charger with it and if not buy one. nobody is forcing anyone to use 
an apple product just stop expecting everything to be there for you.

On 18/04/2021 09:24, Simon A Fogarty wrote:
> Use their computer or go back to where they go the phone and ask how 
> they charge it, And then take the advice of the sales person.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 
> Robert Doc Wright
> Sent: Saturday, 17 April 2021 11:38 pm
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple getting cheapq
>
> So, what does a person do if this is their very first Apple device?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Richard Turner" <richardturne...@outlook.com>
> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 11:28 AM
> Subject: RE: Apple getting cheapq
>
>
> Apple figures everyone has extra charging blocks from all their 
> devices so the environment doesn't need millions more for the 
> landfills or that will end up in the ocean.
>
> BTW, USBC is not Apple's, it is universal; the lightning plug/ports 
> are Apple's exclusively.
>
>
>
> Richard
> "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, 
> but what they become by it."
> - John Ruskin, 1819-1900
>
> Web site: www.turner42.com
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 
> Maria Campbell
> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 10:27 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Apple getting cheapq
>
> My SE2020 didn't even come with a C charger. How cheap is that 
> considering it's so proprietary? It came with the C cord but not the charger.
>
>
>
> --
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