I'm not sure Apple should include for free a way to charge the device at it's optimal rate. I don't have a problem with a company charging a bit more for that option, after all you pay more to get more capacity on your iPhone and they don't include their most expensive Bluetooth headphones with the iPhone.
-- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Outlook -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Malcolm Parfitt Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2021 12:10 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Apple getting cheap There are a couple of issues here when considering Apple’s approach to chargers as I see it. Firstly, I have six 5 Watt chargers here that came with various Apple devices over the years. When I updated to an iPhone XR these 5 Watt chargers, one of them came with the phone will not charge the XR at its fastest rate which begs the question as to why it came with such a low rated charger in the first place. I would rather not just discard these chargers, but finding someone who has a use for them is difficult as they probably have redundant units themselves. Personally I bought a 18 Watt charger from Amazon made by Anker. As I understand it, newer devices made by Apple come with a USB C to Lightning cable. This implies that they assume people have a USB power source available which may or may not be the case. After all, why supply a cable but no charger, why not both or neither. I don’t consider it to be a rip off on Apple’s behalf I completely understand and support any action that is environmentally friendly. But it does look rather inconsistent. Yes, if you have an older charger and cable you can charge your new device but not at its optimal rate. Apple are rather in a no-win situation, what ever they do will earn them criticism from some quarters. Malcolm Parfitt > On 17 Apr 2021, at 18:04, Dennis Long <dennisl1...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Anker chargers are apple certified. > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of > bentleyj1...@gmail.com > Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 1:39 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Apple getting cheap > > Hi Maria , > > This seems to becoming common place with a lot of different products that I > have purchased lately. > > I am guessing that so many people have an abundance of chargers laying around > that it is no longer necessary to include an AC charger. > > If a person does not have a spare charger laying around, then, this is a > major bummer. > > In my case, I am glad that my SE 2020 did not come with a charger because I > would have had to pay more for the phone to get a charger. No charges for > accessories are paid for by the manufacturer. The additional cost are always > absorbed by the purchaser which means higher prices. > > Amazon is an excellent place to find a multitude of different types of > chargers. Some even have surge protection, multiple USB ports, and even > multiple AC outlets. Just make sure that it is Apple certified. > > Regards, > > James B > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Maria > Campbell > Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 12:27 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Apple getting cheapq > > My SE2020 didn't even come with a C charger. How cheap is that considering > it's so proprietary? 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