Cryptic responses like this help no one. Perhaps you could say what you mean by you can't get rid of it?
We are attempting to help someone unfamiliar with accessible phones. Richard "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what they become by it." - John Ruskin, 1819-1900 Web site: www.turner42.com -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Michael Irons Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 8:34 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: In need of assistance Make a better name for the blind shell could be the blind hell because when you get that phone you can’t get rid of it. Sent from my iPhone > On May 3, 2021, at 10:23 AM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote: > > There are push button phones that work, but they require some careful > research. > > I have a friend who has just gotten the latest Kyocera from AT&T and is > giving up her Blind Shell Classic that never served her adequately and now is > having some real issues; she can't even sell it. > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > Richard Turner > Sent: Sunday, May 2, 2021 7:31 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: In need of assistance > > You know Kate, there are push button/flip type phones that talk if that would > be easier for your grandmother. > > The flat screen can really put people off at first. > > > > Richard > "Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss > people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt > > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cb0359e3bc6bc425fb04208d90e48df4c%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637556528404082360%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=OXIIonTfGLPMJP%2BWQunDjDmvla%2FZANZxE2GFGpIxqcU%3D&reserved=0 > > > > On May 2, 2021, at 4:26 PM, Simon A Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote: > > > > > > Hi Kait, > > > > This list is a great resource for anyone learning to use a device with > adaptive technology. > > > > Feel free to ask any questions and we’ll do our best to help. > > > > Yes trying to teach an older person how to use technology is difficult in > the first situation, but when you add in adaptive tech such as voiceover the > screen reader then you really start having clashs > > I know this from trying to teach my mother and father how to use a mobile > and computer. > > > > > > As you say just take it one step at a time, > > > > As for your 911 yes if hey siri is on, > > She should be able to use it to call 911, > > > > The other option is the power button on the phone which if you press 5 > times should give you an sos format of calling, > > > > Which may or may not be a good thing, > > > > Another but slightly more costly thing is that the apple watch now has an > alert for people that have fallen > > So if you had a watch for your gran, > > The trip alert could be setup to let yourself know or emergency services > know that she had fallen. > > > > Hope this is of some use, > > Good luck and feel free to ask anything. > > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of > Kait Forbes > Sent: Monday, 3 May 2021 10:17 am > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: In need of assistance > > > > okay everyone, Wow, I am grateful for this support to help me with my > Grands phone. I need to learn as much as she does as I am the one that will > be introducing all this to her. She is not receptive to any of this. Let's > just say the fight is on. She sees light and that is it, some shadow but > nothing more. She has had a flip phone but can not use it. I bought this > and then realized I too needed assistance in order to help her. I know that > I will not be able to dump this on her all at once.Gran is having a hard time > with what has been dealt to her and I want to make sure I do not overwhelm > her at this point but do however want to introduce things just one step at a > time. If I try to push I am afraid she will shut down. I truly believe in > time she will see that this will be of benefit. It is just her and I here > and I work outside the home. I tried to set this phone up for her but soon > realized I know nothing. I need to step up to the plate for her as she was > for me in my life. I also Know I am asking a lot from all of you here but if > you could see your way clear to assisting me , I would be forever grateful. > Let me tell you what I would like to start with if I may? The,hey Siri would > be helpful to start with getting her to know she can use it for emergency > calls or to call me when I am away. If she starts with this will she be able > to keep the speaker on without any additional voice commands or the need to > do anything else. I know this sounds probably like an idiot mode kind of > thing but I know her well enough that that is enough. I have my number in > the phone and I do believe if she calls for 9 1 1 using hey siri there would > be no problem. this being said am I on the right track? and if so what > would or could I do next to show her there is more and to build her > confidence? It is all kindergarten stuff I know but I assure you this is how > it must be done. I do hope you all understand? I thank you very much for > your kindness, support and consideration. 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She will need to respond to five > prompts, so that Siri will recognize her voice. It is a great thing. I keep > my phone nearby when taking a shower, with the idea that if I should have an > emergency, I can say, Hay Siri, call Jim or Hay Siri, call 911. It can be > used that way. > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> ] On > Behalf Of Mr. Ed > Sent: Sunday, May 2, 2021 2:28 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Subject: RE: In need of assistance > > Hi Kate, > You can also turn Voice Over on and off by telling Siri to turn on > voice over or Hey Siri turn off voice over if you have Hey Siri turned on in > settings or by holding down the home button until you hear the prompt. > Mr. Ed > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> ] On > Behalf Of Shai > Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2021 1:21 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: In need of assistance > > Hello Kate, > I'd also be happy to help. The tripple press of the home button is > only in effect when the phone has been turned on for the first time. > If it's already been set up, then the user would go to > settings/accessibility/accessibility shortcut and select VoiceOver to > configure this. > After that, then use the tripple press of the home button to turn on > VoiceOver. > My contact information is in the signature line. > > > On 5/2/21, Kait Forbes <miss.k.t.for...@gmail.com > <mailto:miss.k.t.for...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Good morning everyone, > > > > Okay, Let me give you a bit of background. I Care for my > Grandmother, > > she is my mom. With recent illness she is now almost totally blind. > > > I need to Help her get some kind of handle on things so I am > starting > > with her phone. I need help and I am told this is one of the groups > > that can do this for us. With your help I too will have the > knowledge to assist her. > > I bought her the iPhone SE 2nd. generation. 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