First, I like that Apple does things no other company attempts to do. I am interested in the changes in Apple Maps. Supposedly, the end user will be able to point his camera when getting off a train and the iPhone will tell him exactly where he is and give turn by turn walking directions to his final destination. iOS 15 is able to determine exact location by analyzing the look of the buildings around the end user and comparing it to Apple Maps.
As for list chatter, the keynote, which lasted for more than an hour and a half, was audio described. This was followed by a Clubhouse gathering facilitated by Jonathan Mosen which listed for nearly two hours. After more than 3.5 hours of information and chatter on iOS 15 and Apple software, I am at the point of exhaustion. Kelly On 6/9/21, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> wrote: > Assuming you are not being tongue-in-cheek, I have friends in their 70's who > do tons of hiking/mountain climbing. > When talking to health professionals, they focus in on those kinds of > features because of their clients with all kinds of disabilities, not just > aging, grin. > Someone in their 50's with Parkinson's disease for one example. There are > many medical conditions that contribute to balance problems other than > Simon's drinking, grin. > > I think I will stay off this thread and follow a bit of cowboy wisdom I ran > across yesterday in a book I was reading; "When your horse is dead, get off > it." > > Later, > > > Richard > Software means never having to say you're finished > > Web site: www.turner42.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of > Sieghard Weitzel > Sent: Wednesday, June 9, 2021 8:24 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: WWDC > > Richard, I think you got it wrong. Let's not forget Chelsea or whoever it > was during the keynote who showed off the new Photos features, she was a > young, professional San Francisco Bay area person and apparently likes > mountain climbing so maybe the fall detection feature is for people like > her. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Anna > Dresner > Sent: Tuesday, June 8, 2021 1:00 PM > To: VIPhone Mailing List <viphone@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: WWDC > > Hi, > > I think the focus features will be great for anyone who is easily > distracted, including people with ADD and similar issues. I think it's great > that they are making it possible for people with more and more different > kinds of needs to use these devices. The great thing is that you can use the > features you need and ignore the rest. > > Cheers, > Anna > > >> On Jun 8, 2021, at 2:19 PM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> >> wrote: >> >> Fascinating, Mark, so you think the young, rich, bay area people are going >> to be needing the hearing aid features, the fall risk features, and others >> I won't bother with here. >> >> I could not disagree more with your statement. >> >> Simon, Several of the health features are clearly targeting older adults. >> You may not be there yet, but those are going to be good features for the >> vast majority of people using iPhones one day. >> >> I know someone who was helped greatly by the fall detection as they live >> alone and the fact that their watch alerted her emergency contacts that >> she had fallen, was possibly a life saver. >> >> >> >> >> >> Richard >> Software means never having to say you're finished >> >> Web site: >> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C2ffd9536357d4c37270808d92b5ab00e%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637588490767732571%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=4SZdyIURC1fyQh2B3CresCKcUWt49XDIodB4%2Fv1Fxcg%3D&reserved=0 >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of M. >> Taylor >> Sent: Tuesday, June 8, 2021 12:11 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: RE: WWDC >> >> Hello Simon, >> >> I share your sentiment especially regarding the new Focus feature. Then >> again, we must always remember that many of these features are based on >> the needs of young, rich, highly active San Francisco Bay area based >> users. >> >> This is just my opinion but I would put money on the demographic I >> describe. >> >> As I think back over the years at some of the photos they display >> regarding their staff, during the presentation, it leaves little doubt >> about which demographic gets the most attention and it ain't low-paid >> blue-collar wage earners (smile). >> >> Just my opinion, nothing more (smile). >> >> Mark >> >> >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >> Of Simon A Fogarty >> Sent: Monday, June 07, 2021 8:42 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: RE: WWDC >> >> Hell, I'm listening to the presentation now and currently at the health >> features update. >> >> From what I've heard so far, >> >> I'm kind of thinking I'm getting in above and beyond my requirements >> level. >> >> Some of these new to come features sound pretty far out there, To the >> point I think, as cool as that feature sounds, Why do we need it, Or more >> to the point, do we need it? >> >> Are we starting to get lazy >> >> It's almost like the IOS 15 OS will do everything for me except make my >> coffee in the morning, and sleep for me at night. >> Or should that be the other way around, >> >> Don't get me wrong, >> This stuff sounds very very cool and helpful, But really, do I need to >> know when I'm going to fall over? >> >> But we in New Zealand wont get the benefit of a lot of these features >> because our systems aren't up to stratch >> >> Like my medical test requests / results, I don't believe we have the >> inferstructure in our medical systems to get this without jumping through >> rings of fire! >> >> But still. >> >> Lets see where this goes once the os is actually updated. >> >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of >> Cristobal Muñoz >> Sent: Tuesday, 8 June 2021 2:56 pm >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: RE: WWDC >> >> Shhh. Don't jinx it. >> The one thing I'm actually looking forward to is the SharePlay feature. >> Especially since a lot of the big streaming services appear to be onboard. >> Not that my sighted wife or family/friends for that matter would ever say >> anything or complain, but hopefully with SharePlay, it'll be a lot more >> convenient to watch and enjoy something with others for those of us who >> need or want the audio described track by simply slipping on a pare of >> headphones. >> It's been something I've always written to Apple Accessibility and >> feedback about with every major iOS release since I don't know when. >> >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of >> Sieghard Weitzel >> Sent: Monday, June 7, 2021 7:10 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: WWDC >> >> I am really surprised to come home tonight and to find virtually nothing >> about today's WWDC keynote. 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