Mmm, guess I should get into Clubhouse more. I’m more interested in the Spatial 
Audio, and the stereo Spacial Audio simulation thing. And ambient sound. Just 
all the audio stuff! 
Devin Prater
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> On Jun 9, 2021, at 6:24 PM, Kelly Pierce <kellyt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> First, I like that Apple does things no other company attempts to do.
> I am interested in the changes in Apple Maps. Supposedly, the end user
> will be able to point his camera when getting off a train and the
> iPhone will tell him exactly where he is and give turn by turn walking
> directions to his final destination. iOS 15 is able to determine exact
> location by analyzing the look of the buildings around the end user
> and comparing it to Apple Maps.
> 
> As for list chatter, the keynote, which lasted for more than an hour
> and a half, was audio described. This was followed by a Clubhouse
> gathering facilitated by Jonathan Mosen which listed for nearly two
> hours.  After more than 3.5 hours of information and chatter on iOS 15
> and Apple software, I am at the point of exhaustion.
> 
> 
> Kelly
> 
> 
> 
> On 6/9/21, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> wrote:
>> Assuming you are not being tongue-in-cheek, I have friends in their 70's who
>> do tons of hiking/mountain climbing.
>> When talking to health professionals, they focus in on those kinds of
>> features because of their clients with all kinds of disabilities, not just
>> aging, grin.
>> Someone in their 50's with Parkinson's disease for one example.  There are
>> many medical conditions that contribute to balance problems other than
>> Simon's drinking, grin.
>> 
>> I think I will stay off this thread and follow a bit of cowboy wisdom I ran
>> across yesterday in a book I was reading; "When your horse is dead, get off
>> it."
>> 
>> Later,
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> Software means never having to say you're finished
>> 
>> Web site: www.turner42.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of
>> Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 9, 2021 8:24 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: WWDC
>> 
>> Richard, I think you got it wrong. Let's not forget Chelsea or whoever it
>> was during the keynote who showed off the new Photos features, she was a
>> young, professional San Francisco Bay area person and apparently likes
>> mountain climbing so maybe the fall detection feature is for people like
>> her.
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Anna
>> Dresner
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 8, 2021 1:00 PM
>> To: VIPhone Mailing List <viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: WWDC
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I think the focus features will be great for anyone who is easily
>> distracted, including people with ADD and similar issues. I think it's great
>> that they are making it possible for people with more and more different
>> kinds of needs to use these devices. The great thing is that you can use the
>> features you need and ignore the rest.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Anna
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 8, 2021, at 2:19 PM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Fascinating, Mark, so you think the young, rich, bay area people are going
>>> to be needing the hearing aid features, the fall risk features, and others
>>> I won't bother with here.
>>> 
>>> I could not disagree more with your statement.
>>> 
>>> Simon, Several of the health features are clearly targeting older adults.
>>> You may not be there yet, but those are going to be good features for the
>>> vast majority of people using iPhones one day.
>>> 
>>> I know someone who was helped greatly by the fall detection as they live
>>> alone and the fact that their watch alerted her emergency contacts that
>>> she had fallen, was possibly a life saver.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> Software means never having to say you're finished
>>> 
>>> Web site:
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>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of M.
>>> Taylor
>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 8, 2021 12:11 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: WWDC
>>> 
>>> Hello Simon,
>>> 
>>> I share your sentiment especially regarding the new Focus feature.  Then
>>> again, we must always remember that many of these features are based on
>>> the needs of young, rich, highly active San Francisco Bay area based
>>> users.
>>> 
>>> This is just my opinion but I would put money on the demographic I
>>> describe.
>>> 
>>> As I think back over the years at some of the photos they display
>>> regarding their staff, during the presentation, it leaves little doubt
>>> about which demographic gets the most attention and it ain't low-paid
>>> blue-collar wage earners (smile).
>>> 
>>> Just my opinion, nothing more (smile).
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>>> Of Simon A Fogarty
>>> Sent: Monday, June 07, 2021 8:42 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: WWDC
>>> 
>>> Hell, I'm listening to the presentation now and currently at the health
>>> features update.
>>> 
>>> From what I've heard so far,
>>> 
>>> I'm kind of thinking I'm getting in above and beyond my requirements
>>> level.
>>> 
>>> Some of these new to come features  sound pretty far out there, To the
>>> point I think, as cool as that feature sounds, Why do we need it, Or more
>>> to the point, do we need it?
>>> 
>>> Are we starting to get lazy
>>> 
>>> It's almost like the IOS 15 OS will do everything for me except make my
>>> coffee in the morning, and sleep for me at night.
>>> Or should that be the other way around,
>>> 
>>> Don't get me wrong,
>>> This stuff sounds very very cool and helpful, But really, do I need to
>>> know when I'm going to fall over?
>>> 
>>> But we in New Zealand wont get the benefit of a lot of these features
>>> because our systems aren't up to stratch
>>> 
>>> Like my medical test requests / results, I don't believe we have the
>>> inferstructure in our medical systems to get this without jumping through
>>> rings of fire!
>>> 
>>> But still.
>>> 
>>> Lets see where this goes once the os is actually updated.
>>> 
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of
>>> Cristobal Muñoz
>>> Sent: Tuesday, 8 June 2021 2:56 pm
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: WWDC
>>> 
>>> Shhh. Don't jinx it.
>>> The one thing I'm actually looking forward to is the SharePlay feature.
>>> Especially since a lot of the big streaming services appear to be onboard.
>>> Not that my sighted wife or family/friends for that matter would ever say
>>> anything or complain, but hopefully with SharePlay, it'll be a lot more
>>> convenient to watch and enjoy something with others for those of us who
>>> need or want the audio described track by simply slipping on a pare of
>>> headphones.
>>> It's been something I've always written to Apple Accessibility and
>>> feedback about with every major iOS release since I don't know when.
>>> 
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of
>>> Sieghard Weitzel
>>> Sent: Monday, June 7, 2021 7:10 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: WWDC
>>> 
>>> I am really surprised to come home tonight and to find virtually nothing
>>> about today's WWDC keynote. I guess the good old days are over when the
>>> Viphone list had 200 messages on a day when Apple delivered a keynote.
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