It also depends on what you're listening to. If you're listening to something 
in a lossless format then wired may sound better, but I bet if most of what you 
listen to is lossy then I bet it's hard to tell the difference. Of course, I'm 
no audiophile, so I'll defer to the audiophiles amongst us!

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Pete 
Nalda
Sent: Monday, July 12, 2021 10:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: airpods?

I must not have that good of hearing them! I really can’t tell the difference!

Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates Louie P (Pete) Nalda 
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> On Jul 12, 2021, at 10:35 PM, Andy Baracco <w...@socal.rr.com> wrote:
> 
> The conventional wisdom is that all other things being equal, wired trumps 
> wireless in terms of audio quality.
> 
> Andy
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pete Nalda" <lpna...@gmail.com>
> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, July 12, 2021 8:17 PM
> Subject: Re: airpods?
> 
> 
> I’d be hard put to tell the difference in sound between wired and wireless.
> 
> Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates Louie P (Pete) Nalda 
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> 
>> On Jul 12, 2021, at 6:58 PM, Kelly Pierce <kellyt...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Do air Pods sounds as good as wired headphones? I thought this was 
>> the reason why the guys at cell phone stores walked around playing 
>> music with wires coming out of their ears.
>> 
>> Kelly
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>>> On 7/12/21, Andy Baracco <w...@socal.rr.com> wrote:
>>> It's the case, if you want to call it that, that comes with the Airpods max.
>>> It basically only covers the ear pieces themselves, and resembles a 
>>> bra in shape.
>>> it is also referred to as a pouch, which might better describe it.
>>> It has a magnetic closure which supposedly puts the headset into a 
>>> deeper sleep, conserving battery charge.
>>> 
>>> Andy
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Simon A Fogarty
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Sent: Monday, July 12, 2021 4:45 PM
>>> Subject: RE: airpods?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sorry but what is the bra case?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf 
>>> Of Star Gazer
>>> Sent: Tuesday, 13 July 2021 8:36 am
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: airpods?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> So let me ask, how do you charge the bra case? I’ve never seen these 
>>> cases, do the buds just hang out in the case until they’re ready to be used?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: Andy Baracco
>>> Sent: Monday, July 12, 2021 4:31 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: airpods?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> it does resemble a Bra!  LOL!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Andy
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>   ----- Original Message -----
>>> 
>>>   From: Richard Turner
>>> 
>>>   To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> 
>>>   Sent: Monday, July 12, 2021 1:05 PM
>>> 
>>>   Subject: RE: airpods?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>   Apple Airpods Max, Space Gray Review updated July 12, 2021 after a 
>>> few months of use.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>   I received the Airpods Max in January and unboxed them and was 
>>> surprised how very sturdy and solid they feel.  I know, I've heard 
>>> about them, but holding them in your hands for the first time, 
>>> everything about them screams quality!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>   Now, everything I have read about the "smart case" which some 
>>> people call the "smart pouch", and I have heard some say "Smart 
>>> Bra"; but I would go with pouch.  I don't know if they changed the 
>>> material, but the descriptions I had heard made me think I was going 
>>> to have a mesh kind of thing that was kind of stretchy like the 
>>> afore mention article of women's clothing.  However, this one feels 
>>> like polyurethane, or even silicon. My wife says it still looks odd, 
>>> and with the headphones in it, more like a purse, but it appears to 
>>> be quite sturdy.  I gather it has no charge of its own, it just 
>>> tells the headphones to go into a deep sleep…
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>   Now, as for the headphones themselves…
>>> 
>>>   I am quite seriously impressed!  Yes, they are heavier than the 
>>> average headphones but so well designed you don't notice that much 
>>> after putting them on.
>>> 
>>>   Yes, they are warm.  It will be interesting when the warm weather 
>>> hits how much I'll want to have them on.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>   But, if you want amazingly good sound, that kind of just works 
>>> with Apple, they are fabulous!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>   One thing I am very pleased about is what they call Transparency Mode.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>   There are 6 microphones on the outside of the headphones.  While 
>>> you are listening over Bluetooth to your Apple device, if you turn 
>>> on Transparency mode, those microphones allow you to hear the 
>>> outside world without diminishing the sound quality of whatever you 
>>> are listening to.  Unlike other things I have had that tried to do 
>>> that, the sound is in stereo. So, if someone speaks to you from your 
>>> left side, you hear it on your left side.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>   Those microphones are used to assist with the noise cancelation 
>>> mode so it can tell what the outside noise is and counteract it.  
>>> So, when Noise Cancelation is on, the world is pretty much blocked out.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>   I have some Sonos speakers on my desk and when my wife turned on 
>>> the TV in the living room, the sound came over my speakers.  Well, I 
>>> turned on Noise Cancelation, and heard nothing of the TV while I was 
>>> listening to some music.  Between songs, I could tell something was 
>>> on in the far background, but not enough to identify it or be bothered by 
>>> it.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>   There is a $35 cable to allow you to plug them into a standard 3.5 
>>> MM earphone jack like on Windows computers, Victor Readers, etc.  It 
>>> is over price.  But, while you do not get the fidelity you get over 
>>> Bluetooth when it is running all of its processes, but they sound 
>>> fine for speech when plugged into my Dell laptop.  I have to turn 
>>> the volume up on the computer or the headphones since they take more 
>>> power to drive them, but I could see myself using them quite often with the 
>>> computer for Jaws.
>>> 
>>>   They apparently do have to be charged to use them with the cable.
>>> Unlike my old Plantronics Beat Sense headphones that can be used 
>>> with the cable even if the battery is dead.
>>> 
>>>   About the Transparency Mode when using them with the cable: If you 
>>> press the button that toggles to Transparency Mode, all the microphones 
>>> come on.
>>> It is nowhere near as loud or clear as when on Bluetooth, but you 
>>> can hear what is happening around you more than with it off.  When 
>>> you turn on Noise Cancelation Mode, The world outside is silent!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>   There are only two buttons on the right ear.  They are on the top 
>>> on either side of the piece that goes over your head.
>>> 
>>>   The one on the side nearest your face is a rectangular/oval button 
>>> that toggles between Noise Cancelation and Transparency Mode.
>>> 
>>>   The one on the other side of the cross bar is the round, Digital Crown.
>>> Like a large version of the one on the watch.  That is used for 
>>> volume, pausing and playing, and holding it to ask siri.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>   I believe they do actually get close to 20 hours of use on one charge.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>   You can use them via Bluetooth with your Windows computer as well. 
>>> Just be aware that sometimes the computer will grab them if they are 
>>> on, and not on your head, which can make you think your computer is 
>>> dead.  Ask me how I know, grin.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>   I find them quite impressive with all kinds of music.  They are 
>>> great with apps like Disney Plus, Prime Video, etc.  When a movie is 
>>> in HD 5.1 or 4K, or Dolby Atmos, the sound is perfect to my ears.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>   The reality is, until you have them on your head and give them a 
>>> try, you won't know if they are good for you or not.  Everyone hears 
>>> differently, so you may hate them.  But, they are worth giving a try.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>   The Apple store link is:
>>> 
>>>   Buy AirPods Max - Apple
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>   Richard
>>> 
>>>   Software means never having to say you're finished
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>   Web site: 
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>   From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On 
>>> Behalf Of Star Gazer
>>>   Sent: Monday, July 12, 2021 12:41 PM
>>>   To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>   Subject: RE: airpods?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>                                                          Can you 
>>> send me a link to the air max?
>>> 
>>>   Why do you like them? I found some wired ear buds in my purse 
>>> yesterday so now I’m thinking about if I want the wireless version
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>   Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>   From: Andy Baracco
>>>   Sent: Monday, July 12, 2021 3:38 PM
>>>   To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>   Subject: Re: airpods?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>   I have the original Air pfods and I think the audio is great, but 
>>> i can't get them to stay in my ears.  i also have the Air Pods Max 
>>> and they are truly awesome, but a different product altogether, and 
>>> much more expensive, but worth it, at least for me.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>   Andy
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>     ----- Original Message -----
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>>>     From: Star Gazer
>>> 
>>>     To: 'RobH.' via VIPhone
>>> 
>>>     Sent: Monday, July 12, 2021 12:36 PM
>>> 
>>>     Subject: airpods?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>     Hi. I’m thinking of getting some, though probably a less 
>>> expensive of what Apple sells.
>>> 
>>>     Any drawbacks to airpods or that technology?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>     Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>>> 
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