I mean, I’m not complaining, just find it interesting. Devin Prater r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com
Https://devinprater.flounder.online > On Aug 15, 2021, at 4:04 PM, Julia Kulak <julia.ku...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi everyone. Richard, thank you very much for this description. Devon, I > don’t care if the voice over driver has more holes than a block of Swiss > cheese. I am just grateful to have a free braille display! Julia. >> On Aug 15, 2021, at 1:19 PM, Devin Prater <r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> Try going into keyboard help mode on the iPhone with Space with K, and press >> the Up and Down keys. See the holes in VoiceOver's driver for the thing. :) >> NVDA has no such faults, go figure. >> Devin Prater >> r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com <mailto:r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com> >> gemini://tilde.pink/~devinprater/ >> >> >> >> On Sun, Aug 15, 2021 at 2:49 PM Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com >> <mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote: >> I have had the eReader from NLS made by Humanware for about three days. >> >> My impressions are below, in no particular order. >> >> 1. The neck strap is cheap and not at all comfortable. It is too skinny, and >> made out of a very rough material. >> >> 2. There are two space bars that for me, are not positioned well. I use my >> right thumb for pressing the space bar and I find its position slightly too >> far to the right. >> >> 3. There are the 20 cursor routing buttons over each cell, but no markers >> every 5 like on most displays with routing buttons. >> >> 4. The keyboard is ergonomically designed with the slight curve. The space >> bars are below the braille cells, which is fine for me but I know some >> people prefer the space bar closer to the keyboard. >> >> The keys have more play in them than I expected. They feel a little spongy. >> >> 5. The case makes it look like a hardback book. It opens just like a book >> cover, with the spine on the back of the unit leaving the front thumb keys >> exposed. The best word I can think of is, "cute." >> >> 6. The braille feels better to me than on the Humanware braille note touch >> plus, but not quite as good as on the Orbit Readers. >> >> 7. It does not have a note taker, but can be connected to a computer or a >> smart phone to be used as a braille keyboard. >> >> 8. The setup for Bluetooth devices is much like other Humanware displays. >> It follows Humanware's logic, which is not my logic, but following the >> instructions did work. >> >> 9. NLS BARD login and download is very straight forward. >> >> 10. Changing braille grades is slow. Press Space+g and you have to wait >> about 6 or 7 seconds before the grade shows up, Then, once the one you want >> is on the display, wait another 6 or 7 seconds for the display to go back to >> what you were doing. >> >> 11. when used as a braille input device with an iPhone SE 2020, it works >> pretty much as well as all displays work, which is very good. >> >> 12. The battery life seems to be maybe 6 or 8 hours, hard to be sure yet. >> >> 13. There is no internet browser, Wi-Fi is used for downloading BARD books >> and updating the firmware. >> >> 14. The wi-Fi set up was pretty straight forward, as Humanware devices go. >> >> 15. I have not tried using it with the computer. >> >> 16. It takes approximately 20 seconds to start up and about 17 seconds to >> shut down. Probably due to the Wi-Fi and Bluetooth functions, I am not sure. >> >> >> >> To get an eReader from NLS you have to contact your regional library for the >> blind and sign up for braille materials, and then request the eReader. If >> you already receive braille materials, simply contact them and ask how to >> get sign up for an eReader if your library is participating in the program >> that is.. >> >> At this point, it is still considered a pilot program and you have to agree >> to participate in several surveys at 2, 4, and 6 months after receiving the >> device and of course, to return it if you are not going to use it. If you >> want, you can keep it after the pilot project is finished. >> >> Oregon seems to be getting the Humanware device; some states are getting the >> one from Zoomax. >> >> There are YouTube videos walking through each device, settings, how to…, >> etc.. >> >> Here is the physical description link for the Humanware device: >> https://www.loc.gov/item/webcast-9336/ >> <https://www.loc.gov/item/webcast-9336/> >> >> >> Here is the physical description link for the Zoomax device: >> https://www.loc.gov/item/webcast-9653/ >> <https://www.loc.gov/item/webcast-9653/> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Richard >> >> Software means never having to say you're finished >> >> >> >> Web site: www.turner42.com <http://www.turner42.com/> >> >> >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. 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