Agreed, Richard. And now, you’ve got a personal cell, a work cell, etc. Recently, they did away with our actual office phones and are making us do this new telephone thing via our computers using Teams. And, it will forward to our work cell phones as well.
I actually still have a land line, only because it wasn’t going to cost extra to keep it or save me any money to get rid of it. Go figure. I get both my land line and internet through my phone company. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 8:52 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Identifying labels when making a contact Sadly Sieghard, too many times these days Work phones and home phones are cell phones. Fewer and fewer of our friends are keeping a landline, and their work phone is often a cell phone also. That was true for me before I retired. We have kept our landline because I don’t want to be in a bind and find the cell service is down or the battery is down, etc. Richard “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – Jane Wagner My Web site: <https://www.turner42.com> https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 8:21 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Identifying labels when making a contact It also depends on which method you use for your Contacts, e.g. iCloud, Outlook.com, Exchange, Gmail etc. Yes, there are some labels which appear outdated as Richard said, but I don't think I ever encountered the issue that when I shared a Contact with somebody that the label was changed and in my opinion they are important especially if you have multiple numbers for a contact, e.g. Work, Mobile, Home etc. I do also agree with what Richard said about Apple not having paid much attention to this and neither has Apple been paying attention to the phone app. For as long as I have an iPhone which now is 12 years or so I wish that you could filter your recent calls not only by "All" and "Missed", but also by "Incoming", "Outgoing" and by a custom search filter, e.g. you type in a particular name or phone number and see only the calls from that person/number. Furthermore I wish that if one would then choose to select all and delete, that only the visible results would be deleted. Currently you can either delete individual calls or you can completely clear your recent calls list, it makes no difference if you choose to show only missed calls and then select to clear them, it still clears the entire call list. I have put this in as a suggestion a few times over the years, but apparently I am the only one who would find this useful and it would probably not be very difficult for Apple to implemenbt this. As for the labels there is one other issue which bugs me a lot and that is the following scenario: 1. Assume you have a contact called John Smith and you have a work phone, home phone, a fax number and a mobile number for that person 2. I now say to SIRI "Message John Smith" and I am not specifying "mobile" 3. SIRI will ask "Which of these should I use for John Smith, work phone, home phone, fax number or mobile" It is of course completely ridiculous why SIRI should ask this because you typically can't send a text message to a landline, e.g. work or home phone and you definitely can't send a text message to a fax number. And if you also have an email address added to the contact, e.g. johnsm...@gmail.com <mailto:johnsm...@gmail.com> , SIRI often also includes this in the list. Of course I can still understand it since if somebody has iMessage enabled you can send an iMessage to their email address, then at best it should ask if you want to use "Mobile or email". It's just another way where SIRI falls short of what it should be after 11 years of being around. At least it seems Apple has finally made SIRI smart enough where you can add a Contact with just a company name in the Company name field, e.g. Apple Accessibility, and then say "Call Apple Accessibility". Until maybe last year you always had to also add the company name either in the first name or last name field if you wanted to ask SIRI to call it or else it would not find it. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: September 1, 2021 7:57 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Identifying labels when making a contact The Contact labels are a joke, and have been a joke for as long as I have had an iPhone. when was the last time you knew someone with a Radio phone, or a car phone, or a pager? And, the iPhone label is there sometimes and not others. There is a Custom label button to create your own some of the time and not others. Apple truly has not paid attention to the labels forever. Half the time, when I use their standard labels of home or work, and share a contact with my wife, the label is changed to Work, if it was home or to home if it was work. The same thing with Email labels in contacts. Pick one you can live with and, as they say, don't sweat the small stuff. Grin. Richard "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- Jane Wagner website: www.turner42.com <http://www.turner42.com> On Sep 1, 2021, at 7:42 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca <mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote: It does not matter, I have never used the iPhone label because in many cases you don't even know if the person has an iPhone or not and then there are those situations where somebody may have an iPhone and then they decide to get an Android phone when they next upgrade. I still have that label and I even see an "Apple Watch" label, not sure why I now have this, but I find it nonsense, whether iPhone or Android phone, they are all mobile phones and I have never experienced a situation that if the recipient of a message had iMessage enabled and was in range of a WiFi or cellular data network that the message was not sent as an iMessage. -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tom Cramer Sent: September 1, 2021 2:43 AM To: viphone <viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Identifying labels when making a contact Hello, When I first used an iPhone and learned to enter contacts, I remember that there was a section where you could identify someone's phone number as being a home phone, work phone, or miblie phone, and a bunch of other options. 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