Carolyn, and others, If you read about the way Seeing AI and SuperSense through their Super LIDAR app, are using this feature, it greatly enhances the ability to identify objects and give far more accurate information about how far away from you that object is. Yes, it also enhances photography; but it also does a lot more. Most uses granted will be for sighted people, like the fact that with LIDAR, apps can take a photograph of a room and give good enough measurements that an architect or interior decorater could make very good first draffts of their designs. This will be the second year of its existance and I'm hoping the uses to help the visually impaired will continue to improve. Plus, my wife can use my phone when she wants to take realy good photos/videos ....
Richard "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- Jane Wagner website: www.turner42.com On Sep 19, 2021, at 12:39 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote: Exactly - having same issue trying to buy mobile home, charges are extra for steps, to mention one essential. -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2021 2:14 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective Just as any other company is charging extra for extra features whether it's a phone, a car, a computer or a barbecue, typically bigger means more money and more features means more money and bigger with more features will always cost the most; This is not a concept invented by Apple. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: September 19, 2021 11:00 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective IF one needs to keep a huge amount of pictures, music, books, movies, then memory is a higher priority. If one is focused on ease of picture taking, advances in object identification and location, then the camera features are a higher priority. The iPhone 13 with 512 GB is the same price as the 13 pro with 256 GB. So, pay a premium for extra memory, or pay a premium for extra features. Apple has you paying a premium for what you want any way you slice it. 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There's a large jump in price between the standard and pro models. Unless you're really into photography, you're getting the bulk of what most blind people will really benefit from in the standard iPhone for substantially less money. This puts Lidar at a painful chicken and egg point. App developers need to find clever enough uses for Lidar to encourage enough sales on a smaller percentage of blind owners of pro models. I think Apple is going to have to bring Lidar to all iPhone models before things really get going. On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 11:23 AM Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com <mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote: I’m very interested to see what LIDAR will do for us, with Seeing AI and Super LIDAR which is from the makers of SuperSense. 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I look forward to the extra storage. However, I also think the 13 will prove a better phone to make use of artificial intelligence related improvements. The 10R came out when that was just finding its stride. Better battery life and a three generation jump in the chip are also attractive. Camera improvements are also possibly quite helpful given that automatic stabilization is now on all phones rather than the pros. For blind people, this could be quite helpful if it really can keep things steadily in focus. Guess I'll find out. I'm hoping I won't have to upgrade again for a number of years. On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 8:32 AM Mike Arrigo <n0...@charter.net <mailto:n0...@charter.net> > wrote: I'm using an iphone 10r here and have no interest in upgrading yet. We'll see what happens next year but my iphone 10r is still working great and does everything I need. > On Sep 16, 2021, at 1:07 AM, M. 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