I don't use Braille input, but otherwise, Chris, I agree with what you say about the Home Button.
-----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 7:32 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective This isn't just true for sighted users. I like the fact that I don't have a home button on the front of my iPhone 11. I feel I have more screen real estate, and it's easier to use braille screen input. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Outlook -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Kelly Pierce Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2021 9:03 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective Sighted people want phones with edge to edge screens. A home button consumes valuable screen real estate that can be used for apps and videos. On 9/19/21, lenron brown <lenro...@gmail.com> wrote: > streaming doesn't always cut it. I mean we had horrible cell service > when the last hurricane came through, and it's still messed up at > times. I would rather have a nice amount of storage and that's more > than 128 for sure. 256 is what my 12 pro max has. I think that's good > for now but who knows what I will need in a couple years. > > On 9/19/21, Simon A Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote: >> Yeah that's would be great but hell the cost is crazy, >> >> But like you the lower storage is all I need although I've got 256gb >> and only currently use 50 approx, >> >> Because everythings on line or streamable. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf >> Of Sieghard Weitzel >> Sent: Monday, 20 September 2021 5:27 am >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective >> >> And maybe next year the regular iPhone 14 will come with a 1 Tb >> option, for me the smallest storage option is more than I need >> because I don't see any sense in, for example, having all my Audible >> books, well over 900 by now, downloaded on my phone. Whenever I want >> to listen to a book again I just find it in my library where I can >> then either stream it or redownload it in about 10 seconds. I >> currently have a 64 Gb iPhone 11 and I have about 30 Gb of free space >> on it, but as I always say, to each their own, you pay a big premium >> for that 1 Tb storage, but if it is what you want then that's great >> and Apple will thank you. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf >> Of Joshua Hendrickson >> Sent: September 19, 2021 9:49 AM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective >> >> My next phone which will be the 14 next year, will be the pro model. >> The pro model of the 13 is already up to 1 terabyte of internal storage. >> I'm hoping the 14 will have both touch ID and face ID. >> Having a much better chip then in the iPhone 8 will be very nice as well. >> >> On 9/19/21, Michael Feir <michael.f...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> The thing about Lidar is you need to buy a Pro model to have that >>> sensor included. There's a large jump in price between the standard >>> and pro models. Unless you're really into photography, you're >>> getting the bulk of what most blind people will really benefit from >>> in the standard iPhone for substantially less money. This puts Lidar >>> at a painful chicken and egg point. App developers need to find >>> clever enough uses for Lidar to encourage enough sales on a smaller >>> percentage of blind owners of pro models. I think Apple is going to >>> have to bring Lidar to all iPhone models before things really get going. >>> >>> On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 11:23 AM Richard Turner >>> <richardturne...@outlook.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I'm very interested to see what LIDAR will do for us, with Seeing >>>> AI and Super LIDAR which is from the makers of SuperSense. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Richard >>>> >>>> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch >>>> with it." - Jane Wagner >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> My Web site: >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fww >>>> w.turner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cd7a83271cf5644ca018708d97bd >>>> bd54a%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C6376770063718290 >>>> 03%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJB >>>> TiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=dr1aQ6BAKrbpcYyUstWvksN >>>> nflIoQ4t6nkG0gFmn5oc%3D&reserved=0 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> *On >>>> Behalf Of *Michael Feir >>>> *Sent:* Sunday, September 19, 2021 6:08 AM >>>> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com >>>> *Subject:* Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I currently use a 10R and decided to upgrade to a 13 with 512 gb. I >>>> look forward to the extra storage. However, I also think the 13 >>>> will prove a better phone to make use of artificial intelligence >>>> related improvements. >>>> The 10R came out when that was just finding its stride. Better >>>> battery life and a three generation jump in the chip are also >>>> attractive. Camera improvements are also possibly quite helpful >>>> given that automatic stabilization is now on all phones rather than >>>> the pros. For blind people, this could be quite helpful if it >>>> really can keep things steadily in focus. >>>> Guess I'll find out. I'm hoping I won't have to upgrade again for a >>>> number of years. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 8:32 AM Mike Arrigo <n0...@charter.net> wrote: >>>> >>>> I'm using an iphone 10r here and have no interest in upgrading yet. >>>> We'll see what happens next year but my iphone 10r is still working >>>> great and does everything I need. >>>> >>>> > On Sep 16, 2021, at 1:07 AM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote: >>>> > >>>> > Hello Everyone, >>>> > >>>> > I've enjoyed reading all of the comments on iPhone 13. >>>> > >>>> > To say that I was disappointed that this year's iPhone models do >>>> > not have any kind of fingerprint reader, would be the >>>> > understatement of the >>>> season. >>>> > >>>> > So, as for me, I have updated my beloved 8 Plus to iOS 14.8, had >>>> > a new battery installed earlier, today, and intend to hold out >>>> > for one more >>>> year >>>> > (smile). >>>> > >>>> > Besides, not that I am superstitious or anything but I do not >>>> > relish the idea of using any kind of device with the number 13 >>>> > being part of its >>>> name >>>> > (smile). It took all of my courage, back in the day, to install >>>> > iOS >>>> 13!!! >>>> > (big Smile). 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