Agree Lisa. I have for whatever reason never gotten my phone tto recogonize a 
password or my face. I couldn't do it with my finger print either.. 

-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Lisa 
Belville
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 4:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com>
Subject: Re: Face recognition

Hi.


The major reason someone may not want a pass code is because, if they're like 
me,  I unlock my phone too many times a day to count.  It's just extra taps for 
someone and more to concentrate on if walking or riding in a vehicle driving 
over bumpy roads. Holding the phone up just seems more intuitive.



Lisa Belville
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On 9/22/2021 2:05 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
> It is quite easy to enter a passcode with VoiceOver.
> It simply depends on your typing mode settings whether you have to double tap 
> each digit or just touch and lift.
> But, if you can type anything on an iPhone, you can enter a passcode.
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 
> Star Gazer
> Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 12:03 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Face recognition
>
>               Ok well how do you know where you are on the screen then 
> without voiceover?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 
> Carolyn
> Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 12:28 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Face recognition
>
> I have no idea how one could enter a passcode with VoiceOver; I, for one, 
> would not want to do that.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Star Gazer
> Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 12:04 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Face recognition
>
>                       How exactly do you enter in a passcode using voiceover? 
> I've never been able to do that to unlock my phone. Any ideas?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 
> Carolyn
> Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 11:17 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Face recognition
>
> Definitely, I am glad to have both, since myh passcode is six digits.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 10:51 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Face recognition
>
> You really are making your life difficult if you want to enter a passcode 
> even if it's just 4 digits every time you want to unlock your iPhone. Face Id 
> works so well and reliably and I'm sure you can get somebody to help you set 
> it up.
> As far as the clock instructions are concerned, are you not able to imagine a 
> clock face, e.g. a circle where 12 O'clock is at the top, 6 O'clock is at the 
> bottom, 3 o'clock is on the right side (between 12 and 6) and 9 o'clock is on 
> the left side?
> You could also use the analogy of a 2-dimensional Globe/representation of the 
> Earth with the cardinal directions North (up) East (to the right), South 
> (down) and West (to the left).
> All you have to do when you set up Face Id, this is a one-time process, is to 
> hold the phone straight in front of your face, then when prompted look a bit 
> to the right, then down, then left and back up. Like I said, I'm sure 
> somebody could help you with it and once it's done turn off attention mode 
> which for some blind people is better if they can't really focus on the 
> screen and you are good to go.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 
> Joshua Hendrickson
> Sent: September 21, 2021 5:28 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Face recognition
>
> If I get an iPhone with face ID, I won't use it.  I'll use my passcode 
> instead.  I didn't know that you had a choice between face ID and your 
> passcode when using a newer iPhone.  If I would have known this a couple 
> years ago, then I would have gotten a newer iPhone then the 8.
> I don't get that whole clock thing about 3:00 and 6:00 when setting up face 
> ID.
>
> On 9/21/21, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
>> A foot is actually a bit close, better to hold it almost at arm's length.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf 
>> Of Carolyn
>> Sent: September 21, 2021 2:25 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Face recognition
>>
>> Kay, I took my 11 outside in the afternoon, on the west side of our 
>> apartment. You need to hold the phone out about a foot from your face.
>> The phone will tell you the prompts, like turn your head slightly to 
>> the left; turn your head slightly to the right; and so forth. The guy 
>> at Wal-Mart couldn't get my facial ID, but I was able to do it myself.
>> If I can, probably most, if not all, iPhone users can.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Kay Malmquist
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 4:39 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Face recognition
>>
>> I am still working with setting my new iPhone Mini.  Before I jump in 
>> to this, How does one set up face recognition?  Do I need sighted 
>> help?  What should I expect?  Thanks much for any input.
>>
>> Kay Malmquist
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>> "Where focus goes, energy flows."
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