It does work for me with or without sunglasses, but not with a mask. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Esther Levegnale
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 4:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com>
Subject: Re: Face recognition

that sounds like a good plan to me too. I was just wondering, if you use facial 
ID and you have sunglasses on, would it work? Esther


Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!


        On Sep 22, 2021, at 4:39 PM, Lisa Belville <missktlab1...@frontier.com> 
wrote:
        
        

        Hi.
        
        
        The major reason someone may not want a pass code is because, if 
they're like me,  I unlock my phone too many times a day to count.  It's just 
extra taps for someone and more to concentrate on if walking or riding in a 
vehicle driving over bumpy roads. Holding the phone up just seems more 
intuitive.
        
        
        
        Lisa Belville
        missktlab1...@frontier.com
        
        On 9/22/2021 2:05 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
        

                It is quite easy to enter a passcode with VoiceOver.
                

                It simply depends on your typing mode settings whether you have 
to double tap each digit or just touch and lift.
                

                But, if you can type anything on an iPhone, you can enter a 
passcode.
                

                
                

                
                

                
                

                
                

                Richard
                

                "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in 
touch with it." - Jane Wagner
                

                
                

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                From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On 
Behalf Of Star Gazer
                

                Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 12:03 PM
                

                To: viphone@googlegroups.com
                

                Subject: RE: Face recognition
                

                
                

                       Ok well how do you know where you are on the screen then 
without voiceover?
                

                
                

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                From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On 
Behalf Of Carolyn
                

                Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 12:28 PM
                

                To: viphone@googlegroups.com
                

                Subject: RE: Face recognition
                

                
                

                I have no idea how one could enter a passcode with VoiceOver; 
I, for one, would not want to do that.
                

                
                

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                From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Star Gazer
                

                Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 12:04 PM
                

                To: viphone@googlegroups.com
                

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                           How exactly do you enter in a passcode using 
voiceover? I've never been able to do that to unlock my phone. Any ideas?
                

                
                

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                From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On 
Behalf Of Carolyn
                

                Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 11:17 AM
                

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                Definitely, I am glad to have both, since myh passcode is six 
digits.
                

                
                

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                From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
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                Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 10:51 AM
                

                To: viphone@googlegroups.com
                

                Subject: RE: Face recognition
                

                
                

                You really are making your life difficult if you want to enter 
a passcode even if it's just 4 digits every time you want to unlock your 
iPhone. Face Id works so well and reliably and I'm sure you can get somebody to 
help you set it up.
                

                As far as the clock instructions are concerned, are you not 
able to imagine a clock face, e.g. a circle where 12 O'clock is at the top, 6 
O'clock is at the bottom, 3 o'clock is on the right side (between 12 and 6) and 
9 o'clock is on the left side?
                

                You could also use the analogy of a 2-dimensional 
Globe/representation of the Earth with the cardinal directions North (up) East 
(to the right), South (down) and West (to the left).
                

                All you have to do when you set up Face Id, this is a one-time 
process, is to hold the phone straight in front of your face, then when 
prompted look a bit to the right, then down, then left and back up. Like I 
said, I'm sure somebody could help you with it and once it's done turn off 
attention mode which for some blind people is better if they can't really focus 
on the screen and you are good to go.
                

                
                

                
                

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                From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On 
Behalf Of Joshua Hendrickson
                

                Sent: September 21, 2021 5:28 PM
                

                To: viphone@googlegroups.com
                

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                If I get an iPhone with face ID, I won't use it.  I'll use my 
passcode instead.  I didn't know that you had a choice between face ID and your 
passcode when using a newer iPhone.  If I would have known this a couple years 
ago, then I would have gotten a newer iPhone then the 8.
                

                I don't get that whole clock thing about 3:00 and 6:00 when 
setting up face ID.
                

                
                

                On 9/21/21, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
                

                        A foot is actually a bit close, better to hold it 
almost at arm's length.
                        

                        
                        

                        
                        

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                        Carolyn
                        

                        Sent: September 21, 2021 2:25 PM
                        

                        To: viphone@googlegroups.com
                        

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                        Kay, I took my 11 outside in the afternoon, on the west 
side of our
                        

                        apartment. You need to hold the phone out about a foot 
from your face.
                        

                        The phone will tell you the prompts, like turn your 
head slightly to
                        

                        the left; turn your head slightly to the right; and so 
forth. The guy
                        

                        at Wal-Mart couldn't get my facial ID, but I was able 
to do it myself.
                        

                        If I can, probably most, if not all, iPhone users can.
                        

                        
                        

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                        Behalf Of Kay Malmquist
                        

                        Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 4:39 PM
                        

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                        I am still working with setting my new iPhone Mini.  
Before I jump in
                        

                        to this, How does one set up face recognition?  Do I 
need sighted
                        

                        help?  What should I expect?  Thanks much for any input.
                        

                        
                        

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