They don't hav eto back up your music if it is music available via Apple Music, 
but they should backup the state of the flag which indicates whether a track or 
album is downloaded to your device and when you restore then any music you had 
previously downloaded should also get downloaded again without a lengthy manual 
process. Anyways, it seems that with Quick Transfer any music you had 
downloaded is transferred to your new device so that would definitely be the 
way to go.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Arnold 
Schmidt
Sent: September 27, 2021 8:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Updated and restored from backup, no music or bard books

It is much more efficient on their end. Why should they back up the tracks you 
have on your specific device when they already have those tracks somewhere else 
in their system? As for your case, if the music you had on your phone is on the 
computer where you had the backup, it should have transferred it again from 
your computer's music folder onto your new phone.

Arnold Schmidt

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2

On Sep 27, 2021, at 11:40 AM, Amy Ruell <aru...@comcast.net> wrote:

Called Apple support, they say that music doesn’t download to your device 
automatically from one Iphone to another. Doesn’t seem very efficient, but.  I 
backed up through Itunes.
Amy



From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 10:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Updated and restored from backup, no music or bard books

Right.
Was the stored backup on your computer or iCloud?

If iCloud, I have no idea.  Unless you took advantage of the extra storage with 
iOS 15 for backups and did a backup again under 15 to get everything backed up, 
then iCloud doesn’t do the music.

If you did it via USB and your computer, as I said before, you have to leave it 
plugged in an extra long time until all the files are copied which is almost 
impossible to tell easily with a screen reader.  Even then, in the past, I had 
to sync again after restoring from a backup to get all my music over.

If all else fails, ask the Apple Accessibility team, 877-240-3930.  When I 
called Saturday evening, I only had about a 30 second wait to talk with someone.

Best of luck,



Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
<viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Amy 
Ruell
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 7:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Updated and restored from backup, no music or bard books

I have a lot of downloaded music but it is not showing up.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
<viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 10:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Updated and restored from backup, no music or bard books
I had to upgrade to IOS 15 because that is what came on the new phone I 
purchased.
Amy


If you are streaming music, and have not downloaded it, the Settings, general, 
About, will not show any songs, because none are on the device.
I suspect the music app will show what is available, but available when online, 
as Malcolm said.





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To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Updated and restored from backup, no music or bard books

You don’t have to download music to play it provided you have an internet 
connection.

If you want to play music when you are offline or you don’t want to use up your 
data allowance then the music has to be downloaded.

Sometimes I want to play music when not on wifi and at the time I had a limited 
data allowance so I would download music but now my plan is unlimited I don’t 
bother.
Malcolm Parfitt

On 27 Sep 2021, at 12:22, Amy Ruell 
<aru...@comcast.net<mailto:aru...@comcast.net>> wrote:

Hello,
That’s what I would’ve thought as well, however, I don’t have to download the 
music to play it.

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 27, 2021, at 7:19 AM, Richard Turner 
<richardturne...@outlook.com<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
 That is why I do the direct wireless transfer from the old phone to the new.
I have over 12000 songs on my phone and when the transfer was pinished in under 
an hour they were all on the new phone.
If you used iTunes with a USB cable you would have had to wait several hours 
for the songs to finish transfering.
You may have to do a full sync with your computer to get them all on the phone.
Good luck.
You could also call Apple Accessibility to get some assistance if needed.


Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- 
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On Sep 27, 2021, at 3:59 AM, Malcolm Parfitt 
<malc...@parfitt1.org.uk<mailto:malc...@parfitt1.org.uk>> wrote:
It sounds like the albums are in your library but the songs are not actually 
downloaded.

If you double-tap on an album you should have a Download Button.  Double-tap 
Download then your phone should report that you have songs stored on it.

Malcolm Parfitt
On 27 Sep 2021, at 11:55, Amy Ruell 
<aru...@comcast.net<mailto:aru...@comcast.net>> wrote:

Hello,
Oddly, if I go to music on my phone, I see albums there. However, the songs 
list on the phone its self under settings and about says songs zero.
Amy

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 27, 2021, at 6:05 AM, Pete Nalda 
<lpna...@gmail.com<mailto:lpna...@gmail.com>> wrote:

As for music, make sure iCloud syncing for music is turned on.

Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates
Louie P (Pete) Nalda
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Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
Twitter: @lpnalda

On Sep 27, 2021, at 4:56 AM, Joshua Hendrickson 
<louv...@gmail.com<mailto:louv...@gmail.com>> wrote:

That is a big negative on the bard books for sure.  I have no idea
about the music.  That not transferring of bard books is so annoying.
I will be keeping my iPhone 8 forever as long as NLS won't transfer or
backup your bard books to a new iPhone or other device like an iPad or
any other device.  It is so frustrating.

On 9/27/21, Amy Ruell <aru...@comcast.net<mailto:aru...@comcast.net>> wrote:
Hello,

I updated to IOS 15 and set up my new phone to use a stored backup. I have
no songs listed and no BARD books. Is there a way to restore these?

Thanks.

Amy



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