Joe and others, This is the very first time in my years on this list that I used a silly subject line to grab folks attention. It clearly worked.
I did not expect it to go off the rails. If this group was on groups.io it would be easy to mute subjects when they have either proven to be off topic or of no interest. I certainly will never post a subject line this obscure in the future. I am rethinking how much I will post on a list that is essentially unmoderated. I think I will stick to replying when I have something to ad, and only post new messages to Blind Apples group on groups.io where there is real moderators. Thanks, Richard “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – Jane Wagner My Web site: https://www.turner42.com -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Joe Orozco Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2021 1:53 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus Would you mind kindly using more descriptive subject lines for better sorting? Thanks much for your initial impressions of the new iPhone.--Joe On 9/28/21, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> wrote: > Well Mr. Ring, > > You must not have bothered to read my original post. > I started out with: > OK< a completely misleading subject line, but Santa Claus came > yesterday cleverly disguised as a UPS delivery person with my iPhone > 13 Pro, Sierra Blue, 256GB. > (For those who do not get the reference of the subject line, I will > post a link to a Wikipedia article at the end of this email.) > > > It was intended to get people’s attention who knew that I was supposed > to receive the phone on Friday … but you don’t give a damn about that. > Though, it got your attention. 😊. > > You seem to just like being critical. > > So enjoy your life of criticism while I’l enjoy my new phone and sense > of humor. Sadly, people have taken the thread completely off topic > which the moderator seems also to not give a damn about. So, there you have > it. > > Richard > “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” > – Jane Wagner > > My Web site: > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.t > urner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C0063f643fe8c44161cea08d982c1f60f% > 7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637684591832792663%7CUnkn > own%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwi > LCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=ZKvFq0ZVzATsiFo22Sekul0SkJW4p12PXe0nNB > EUHik%3D&reserved=0 > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of > richr...@gmail.com > Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2021 9:42 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus > > This is just about the stupidest subject line I’ve ever seen! > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf > Of Sieghard Weitzel > Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2021 11:34 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus > > And have you checked under Notifications > Mail > Customize > Notifications that a sound is selected for each of your accounts? > Also, double check in Notifications > Mail that banners are in fact > selected and also display on lock screen if that is what you want. > For some reason my mail sounds were turned off after the update to iOS > 15 and I had to reenable them, but on my iPhone 11 Mail and other > notifications are all coming in as they As they should whether the phone is > locked or not. > Keep in mind that now with the notification summary option and the > various focus options this may also have an effect if maybe you > accidently turned on notification summary and Mail is going into the summary. > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf > Of Cristobal Muñoz > Sent: September 28, 2021 9:28 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus > > Again, if the phone on iOS 15 is locked, then notifications come in. > If I’m using the phone however, nothing. So… if I have both phone’s on > my person and they’re both locked, then I now get alerts on both > devices. The iPhone on iOS 15 (that is locked). And the other iPhone that’s > still on iOS 14.8. > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf > Of Sieghard Weitzel > Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2021 2:06 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus > > Sorry Cristobal, what does Apple need to address? I thought you said > you aren't getting alerts and now you say you are getting them on both phones? > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf > Of Cristóbal Muñoz > Sent: September 27, 2021 10:44 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus > > Right now, I just configured the email accounts I need to know about > on my business iPhone that’s still on iOS 14.8. I now get the alerts > in stereo (one phone in each pocket), but it’ll work until Apple > pushes out a new iOS release addressing it. > > Cristóbal > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf > Of Sieghard Weitzel > Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 10:02 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus > > I don't have that issue, either. I just sent my self a test email and > made sure my phone was unlocked and on the home screen and my iPhone > played the email sound I have set for my personal account. > I normally have banners for Mail turned off and also don't have it > show up in Notification Centre, but I enabled temporary banners just > to test it and sent myself another message with the subject "Another Test". > When it arrived the sound played and Voiceover said "Mail Sieghard > Weitzel, Another Test, no content". The no content of course because I > didn't actually write anything in the message body. > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf > Of Cristóbal Muñoz > Sent: September 27, 2021 9:39 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus > > The one major bug I’m dealing with and don’t recall reading about in > the AppleVis write-up is that when the phone is unlocked, > notifications are silent. I don’t know if for sighted people the > banner comes up, but with VoiceOver at least, you are left oblivious > as to any sort of incoming notification. In my case, I deal with time > sensitive emails so it was turning into a bigtime annoyance for me. I > thought it might have to do with the new focus settings in iOS 15, but > after monkeying around with that for a while and other settings like > having VoiceOver speak notifications, nothing changed. > I finally called Apple Accessibility on Friday after the work week was > done and explained my issue. Turns out, it’s a known bug and they’re > “workig on it.” Not much Solace since that pretty much means wait till > iOS 15.1 comes out. > Anyway, he documented my call and bug report. He said the more people > contact them about it, the better. So… get on it people and bug Apple > about it if you’re experiencing this too. > If the phone’s locked or even if I’m on a phone call, the > notifications do come in. It’s just when it’s unlocked and in use that > there is no sound whatsoever. Again, no idea if the banners are still > popping up, but even with VoiceOver set to speak incoming notifications, it > doesn’t’ help. > Other than that, can’t say iOS 15 has been otherwise buggy for me. > > > > > Cristóbal > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf > Of Sieghard Weitzel > Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 8:13 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus > > I find that iOS 15 has very few bugs or at least very few serious > bugs. I have an iPhone 11 so I don't know if other hardware has > different issues, but I have no problems with the wallet, no issues > with the share sheet and I just fixed the app switcher problem where > flicking left sometimes doesn't say which app you are on by turning > off Reduced Motion, this can be found in Voiceover Settings > Motion > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf > Of Esther Levegnale > Sent: September 27, 2021 1:17 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus > > how cool is that! I hope you enjoy your new phone. A friend of mine > told me not to get it yet because all the bugs need to be ironed out > in 15. I want to get the new phone that is labeled as Pro Max. Esther > Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+! > > On Sep 26, 2021, at 6:38 PM, Richard Turner > <richardturne...@outlook.com<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote: > > OK< a completely misleading subject line, but Santa Claus came > yesterday cleverly disguised as a UPS delivery person with my iPhone > 13 Pro, Sierra Blue, 256GB. > (For those who do not get the reference of the subject line, I will > post a link to a Wikipedia article at the end of this email.) > > Yes, UPS made good on the text Saturday morning letting me know that > my package would be delivered today, not Monday. > > We had just helped a friend setup her new iPhone 12 Pro with the > wireless data transfer from her old 6S, so I was sure my experience > would be similar… You know what happens when you assume?... > > After 2 hours and a couple of failed attempts, I called Apple > Accessibility. > I got a wonderful woman named Regina, who was more than happy to sit > with us through this process. Of course, it failed for her too. > Then, she had us reboot both my SE 2020 and the new iPhone 13 pro and > this time, the process went very smoothly. I was afraid I would have > to truly start from scratch, but it went much faster and got everything > trasnferred over. > > I think the fancy new screen may make a little difference in swiping. > It is quite responsive, but that could also be just the new chip. > > I bought an inexpensive ESR clear case for it, which fits very nicely. > The case came with a surprise; a stand. It is like the decrotive > plate holders, a plastic V with knotches near the end of each half and > it hinges at one end and when you spread the sides open, the phone > sits at a nice angle in landscape mode. > > I’m listing the observations/opinions in no particular order below. > > The Sound. Well, I was expecting better sound. I was not expecting > this quality of sound. When in that little stand that came with the > case, sitting at my desk about 2 feet in front of the phone, the > stereo separation is very clear and the sound quality is quite impressive. > > Now, my SE 2020 I got last year, had significantly better sound than > the SE first generation and of course, had the stereo if you had your > nose about on the display. The 13 Pro sounds way better than the SE second > generation. > Bigger, clearer, and while the phone is only slightly longer than the > SE second generation, the separation is noticeably better. > I never heard the 11 or 12 pro, so maybe they are as good, but I’m > quite impressed. > > Setting up Face ID was very easy. VoiceOver walks you through the > setup with good directions. Best yet, at the end of the setup, it > lets you know that the requires attention is turned off for VoiceOver > users but you can turn it on if you wish. I wouldn’t do that. That > requires very specific focus rather than just some of your face being > seen by the camera. It makes unlocking the phone quite fast. > > I won’t guess at battery life for at least a week after I’ve used it a > fair amount. > > My wife wathced a video on inserting the Nano SIM from my SE 2020 into > the > 13 Pro because she could not get it to fit. It goes in upside down > from the way it was in the SE 2020. Then, it works fine. I am on > Xfinity, and I could make calls, receive calls, etc., once the Sim was > in and I rebooted to make sure. > I will call them later to see if they need anything like the IMEI > number, etc. > > I’m having a few issues with mBraille but that is probably me getting > used to the larger screen, but I’m not sure yet. > > I used Super LIDAR from SuperSense briefly this morning. Very promising. > One thing it does that might be nice for low-vision/blind going > somewhere on their own, if it sees a person without a mask, it will > tell you “person without a mask.” > I think I’d want a lanyard, harness, something that would make it so I > don’t have to hold the phone pointed ahead of me to use that feature, > or any other LIDAR feature. > > I have some settings to still go through and some apps to log into > again, but so far, I really like the phone a lot and know I won’t need > or want another phone for several years. > > Now, if you don’t know about Virginia, read the article at Wikipedia: > Yes, Virginia, there is a Santa Claus - > Wikipedia<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A% > 2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FYes%2C_Virginia%2C_there_is_a_Santa_Cla > us&data=04%7C01%7C%7C0063f643fe8c44161cea08d982c1f60f%7C84df9e7fe9 > f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637684591832792663%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbG > Zsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0% > 3D%7C1000&sdata=5Lo7KEVRbMOGIgz9xtbkJqDGJs38TPq0lmWP2c26Js4%3D& > ;reserved=0> > > Richard > “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” > – Jane Wagner > > My Web site: > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.t > urner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C0063f643fe8c44161cea08d982c1f60f% > 7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637684591832802618%7CUnkn > own%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwi > LCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=Yr3%2BFJBdGZ2xpzbFfTQRbCInUHWiTEwF4hMs > VpE7ayM%3D&reserved=0<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.co > m/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C0063f64 > 3fe8c44161cea08d982c1f60f%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7 > C637684591832802618%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIj > oiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=Yr3%2BFJBdGZ > 2xpzbFfTQRbCInUHWiTEwF4hMsVpE7ayM%3D&reserved=0> > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, > or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact > the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. 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