I can't understand this message, so let me just provide some more information.

It seems that I need to toggle on hand gestures in the VoiceOver settings on my 
Apple Watch. You might need to do this through the Watch app on your iPhone. 
That might have been what got it working for me. Note I have an Apple Watch SE. 
You also need to be running WatchOS 8 and IOS 15.

Now after you wake up your Apple Watch, say by pressing the crown, you can 
enable hand gestures with a double clench. This means make a fist twice quickly 
with the same hand your watch is on. Once it's enabled you can move from item 
to item with the pinch and double pinch gestures. This is the same as swiping 
on the face of your watch, but you're not touching your watch and your using 
the fingers on the same hand your watch is on. So for example, if I pinch my 
pointer and thumb together, I'll hear Mindfulness and with another pinch I'll 
hear Workout and then the time. These are the objects on my watch face. A 
double pinch will move me back an item, so say from the time to Workout and 
then to Mindfulness. To activate the item I just heard VoiceOver announce, I 
just need to do a clench, that means make a fist with the hand my watch is on. 
This way I can work with my watch without having to touch the screen.

I hope that helps explains things a bit.

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-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2021 6:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New hand gestures on Apple watch

Sorry but I'm missing something ere,

You ae tese gestures atiated and you an use your and to enable different tings 
on your wat?

Tat is something I missed alogn te way,

I 'll ae to ek tis out.
 Please keep us more informed wit tis one.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Tuesday, 12 October 2021 11:54 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New hand gestures on Apple watch

I am running Watch OS 8. Under Settings -> Accessibility -> VoiceOver -> Hand 
Gestures, I have them toggled on. Under Settings -> Accessibility -> Assistive 
Touch (which is in the Motor section) the option to toggle this on is greyed 
out.

I'm not sure what I just did, but they just started working with the above 
settings. Using the defaults, when the watch face is active, I can enable hand 
gestures with a double clench. A clench is making a fist, so if I do this twice 
then hand gestures are enabled. To move from item to the next item, I can 
perform a pinch gesture by just touching my pointer finger to my thumb. A 
double pinch moves backwards. A clench performs a double tap on whatever has 
focus and the double clench simulates a press of the crown. I'm still playing 
with it, and I haven't determined how useful they are yet, but I'm intrigued.

You can learn more by going to 
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Wayne 
Merritt
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2021 5:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New hand gestures on Apple watch

I believe that in order to use the new gestures, you have to enable Assistive 
Touch in WatchOS 8. If you have not updated your watch to version 8 of the 
operating system, then these new gestures will not work.

Be well,
Wayne Merritt

On 10/10/21, Christopher Chaltain <chalt...@outlook.com> wrote:
> I'm also curious if anyone has had any success with these gestures.
>
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 
> Ian Harrison
> Sent: Saturday, October 9, 2021 7:50 AM
> To: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
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> 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: New hand gestures on Apple watch
>
> Hi all,
> I thought I would try these out. I turned them on in the watch app, 
> but the watch is not responding to the clenches or pinches. I've 
> restarted my watch.
>
> Thanks in advance
> Ian
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