Hello Richard:
It’s been a long time but the problem still exists with iOS 15.1.
How do I find the case ID? I’d like to update the report but I don’t have the 
beta software installed on my iPhone 12 pro max.
Do I have to install the beta software first if so can you give me the URL to 
sign up for it again.
Thank you so much for all the help that you are to everybody on this list.


*******  MQ *******


> On Apr 28, 2021, at 2:53 PM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
> wrote:
> 
>  You should report it through the beta feedback form as well if you haven't.
> I'll report it if you share the case number so the reports will all show up 
> under the same issue.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard 
> "Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
> people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt
> 
> www.turner42.com
> 
> 
>>> On Apr 28, 2021, at 10:52 AM, Mickey Quenzer <mickey.quen...@gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> Hello Richard: just wanted to let you know that The problem can also be 
>> created with Apple Music.
>> Sieghard, I thought this problem existed earlier than that but yes I am on 
>> the latest update of iOS and I also can create the problem with the beta 
>> software for iOS. I have reported it to Apple Accessibility for the current  
>> Version 14.5 iOS as they don’t track the beta software issues.
>> 
>> 
>> ******* MQ *******
>> *******270-776-9871 *******
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> on behalf of 
>> Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca>
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2021 11:34:24 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: RE: Voiceover problem while using Bluetooth speakers
>>  
>> Have  you updated to 14.5? This was not an issue prior to that update.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 
>> Joshua Hendrickson
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2021 8:08 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Voiceover problem while using Bluetooth speakers
>> 
>> I use bluetooth speakers and headphones with bard and voice over all the 
>> time.  I've never had a problem where voice over is louder then my bard 
>> book.  I also have change with buttons off when it comes to volume.
>> 
>> On 4/28/21, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> wrote:
>> > Which speaker do you have?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Richard
>> > "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, 
>> > but what they become by it."
>> > - John Ruskin, 1819-1900
>> >
>> > Web site: www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 
>> > Mickey Quenzer
>> > Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2021 7:31 AM
>> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> > Subject: Re: Voiceover problem while using Bluetooth speakers
>> >
>> > Hello everybody:
>> > I was able to get a hold of Apple accessibility and they log the 
>> > problem with their Apple support tools. I was able to duplicate the 
>> > problem for them.
>> > And Arnold your fix didn’t change anything but I’ll play with it 
>> > throughout the day. Thanks for your suggestion. I hope somebody else 
>> > can cause the trouble to because it’s very consistent it happens on my 
>> > iPhone X my iPhone
>> > 12 so I’ll keep you posted.
>> >
>> >
>> > ******* MQ *******
>> > *******270-776-9871 *******
>> > ________________________________
>> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> > <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> on behalf 
>> > of Arnold Schmidt <als5...@gmail.com<mailto:als5...@gmail.com>>
>> > Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2021 8:09:11 AM
>> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> > <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
>> > Subject: Re: Voiceover problem while using Bluetooth speakers
>> >
>> > I wonder if this might help. When it happens, turn the volume on your 
>> > phone all the way down, until you don't hear anything. Now, turn the 
>> > volume on your speaker all the way down, hit it three or four times to 
>> > make sure it is all the way down. Now, start turning up the volume on 
>> > your phone until the volume is what you want. Or, sometimes, you have 
>> > to turn up the volume on your speaker, rather than the phone. 
>> > Sometimes one, sometimes the other. Lay around with it to see if you can 
>> > fix it.
>> >
>> > Arnold Schmidt
>> >
>> > Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2
>> >
>> > On Apr 28, 2021, at 8:18 AM, Mickey Quenzer 
>> > <mickey.quen...@gmail.com<mailto:mickey.quen...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> > 
>> > Hello Richard:
>> >
>> > Change with Buttons Is off.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ******* MQ *******
>> > *******270-776-9871 *******
>> > ________________________________
>> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> > <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> on behalf 
>> > of Richard Turner 
>> > <richardturne...@outlook.com<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>>
>> > Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 6:10:10 PM
>> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> > <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
>> > Subject: RE: Voiceover problem while using Bluetooth speakers
>> >
>> >
>> > Check your settings, Sound, change with buttons.
>> >
>> > If that is not off, that’s your problem.
>> >
>> > I keep that setting off, so the volume buttons don’t mess with VoiceOver.
>> >
>> > I just connected a Bluetooth speaker, played a BARD book, playing with 
>> > the volume buttons all over the place, and VoiceOver never got out of line.
>> > I.E. Its volume stayed normal.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Richard
>> >
>> > "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, 
>> > but what they become by it."
>> >
>> > - John Ruskin, 1819-1900
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Web site:
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>> >
>> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> > <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf 
>> > Of Mickey Quenzer
>> > Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 3:34 PM
>> > To: Abridged Recipients
>> > <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
>> > Subject: Voiceover problem while using Bluetooth speakers
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Steps to reproduce the problem
>> >
>> > Add a speaker to Bluetooth settings.
>> >
>> > Go into bard and start playing a book
>> >
>> > Use the volume up and down button to set the volume of the speaker 
>> > you’re playing through.
>> >
>> > While in bard just use voiceover normally.
>> >
>> > You’ll find that there are two volumes with voiceover. One of them is 
>> > the volume that you set in the rotor and the other one is actually 
>> > unknown to me at this point that one is very loud and uncontrollable.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Questions:
>> >
>> > One which volume setting is that voice coming from? To how do you 
>> > control that volume?
>> >
>> > Notes
>> >
>> > If you want to change set your system up to be normal again just 
>> > disconnect the Bluetooth
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ******* MQ *******
>> >
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