Sunlight is absolutely not required. Maybe it is better if there is normal 
light whether daylight or from a lamp/ceiling light when you first set it  up, 
but Apple really has gotten this right and it is not rocket science. But there 
will always be some people who have difficulties with it just as there were 
people who never got Touch Id to work reliably.
I remember many years ago when Touch I d first came out that there was a lady 
on the Viphone list, I believe her first name was Rose, who very seriously 
believe that because she was a typist or transcriptionist all her life that she 
had worn off her finger prints and that is why Touch Id did not work for her.
Anyways, I can definitely see how Touch Id would be problematic for people who 
do a lot of manual labour and often have dirty fingers like maybe mechanics, 
farmers, carpenters and so on. As I said before, it has been  my own experience 
that Touch Id was always problematic if I had a bunch of small scrapes or cuts 
on my fingers from woodworking and of course good old Titebond wood glue let 
alone Lepage construction adhesive on my fingers would render it useless for a 
couple of days until it wore off. Titebond at least can easily be washed off 
with warm water, the other stuff requires paint thinner.
Then of course there is the fact that for those of us who live in a colder 
climate gloves are a fact of live for 4 or 5 months out of the year and in all 
these scenarios Face Id is just much superior, easier and more reliable.













































































































































































































































































































































































































-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Sunday, September 4, 2022 4:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Face ID hit or miss

I went out in bright sunlight, but some people say that is absolutely not 
necessary. Since the guy at Wal-Mart could not do it, I wondered at the time, 
if light had something to do with it. Now, I simply do not know why we could 
not get it done at Wal-Mart. 

-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Arnold Schmidt
Sent: Sunday, September 4, 2022 6:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Face ID hit or miss

I wonder if where one is when they initially set up face ID would make a 
diference? I know it is not supposed to make that much of a difference,  but I 
do wonder.  When I get a modern phone and want to set up face ID, I will go 
outside, not in direct sunlight, but using outside light. Some people seem to 
have little problem using it, others just can't seem to make it work 
consistently. Maybe it is like those ocr programs, that only can do as well as 
the scan they are given. Maybe some who have a problem with it gave their phone 
a not so good scan of their face to start with. I know voice over said it was 
okay, but maybe a better scan would work better. This is just speculation on my 
part, I don't have a modern phone with which to experiment.  

Arnold Schmidt 
  
Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2

On Sep 4, 2022, at 5:35 PM, Lynn Schneider <canepri...@gmail.com> wrote:



I would say face ID works for me about 50% of the time. for reasons unclear to 
me, sometimes it will just completely not recognize my face and I have to reset 
it. One thing that has helped me is to also set up the alternate face ID so 
that essentially, it has two copies of my face. I know people say that it 
should not matter if you are in a light or dark environment, but in my very 
dark bedroom, it rarely recognizes my face. it certainly has gotten a lot 
better with practice, but I don’t have quite the luck that Sieghard has had, 
despite setting mine up per the instructions given on this list about six 
months ago.


Sent from my iPhone


        On Sep 4, 2022, at 4:14 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
        
        

         

        Why don't  you use Face Id, for me it works better than Touch Id ever 
did, but of course that is partly because I do at time use my hands for 
physical labour like woodworking, gardening and so on and whenever I put in a 
day in my woodworking shop I could forget Touch Id for the next 2 or 3 days 
until either the glue came off my fingers and/or all the little cuts and scraps 
had heeled. Face Id is actually more secure than Touch Id and it works for me I 
would say about 96 or 98% of the time. I do have th attention feature turned 
off I should add, it makes it maybe slightly less secure, but both my eyes are 
prosthetic and I often do not have them in at night. I have no issue with Face 
I d with the attention feature enabled, but it will not work if it doesn't see 
the eyes whereas it works just fine even in absolute darkness with that feature 
disabled..

         

         

        Best regards,

        Sieghard

         

        From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 
Esther Levegnale
        Sent: Sunday, September 4, 2022 9:37 AM
        To: viphone@googlegroups.com
        Subject: Re: Face ID hit or miss

         

        on my old phones with home buttons, I really enjoyed touch ID. I don't 
think there is such a thing now with the newer phones that don't have a home 
button. I just use a pass code. Esther

        Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!

        
        
        

                On Sep 3, 2022, at 10:47 PM, Joshua Hendrickson 
<louv...@gmail.com <mailto:louv...@gmail.com> > wrote:

                It will take some practice before you will feel comfortable 
with face
                ID.  I honestly prefer touch ID myself, but I am getting used 
to face
                ID.
                
                On 9/3/22, Anthony Vece <ajv...@gmail.com 
<mailto:ajv...@gmail.com> > wrote:
                
                

                        I would imagine that if this is a brand-new phone for 
the first few days or

                        so it would asked for your password more often than 
Face ID. This is so that

                        everything could stick to get it. However the 
suggestions you receivedmake

                        sense. Keep us posted.

                         

                        Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro!!

                         

                                On Sep 3, 2022, at 8:10 PM, Nimer Jaber 
<nimerjab...@gmail.com <mailto:nimerjab...@gmail.com> > wrote:

                                 

                                

                                Hello,

                                 

                                A couple of things to try:

                                * Try holding it at arms-length away from your 
face, straight out in front

                                of you.

                                * If you are wearing glasses, try with them off.

                                * If you did not register face ID that way, try 
registering it again.

                                * Try using a microfiber cloth to wipe off the 
screen. Sometimes, skin

                                oils can cause interference, if you hold the 
phone up to your ear while on

                                a call.

                                * Note that, on device reboot, you will 
certainly need to enter your pin

                                again.

                                 

                                If none of these things help, I would probably 
go back to where you bought

                                it, or reach out to Apple, as it may be a 
hardware issue.

                                 

                                        On Sat, Sep 3, 2022 at 4:15 PM 
SoonerAnnie <sooneran...@att.net <mailto:sooneran...@att.net> > wrote:

                                        Hi all,

                                         

                                        Subject pretty much says it all. I just 
bought an iPhone 13 mini and have

                                        set up Face ID with no difficulty; 
however, it seems that it'll work two

                                        or three times and then will require me 
to use my pass code to unlock my

                                        phone. I am getting very tempted to put 
my SIM card back in my SE 20 lol.

                                        It's much easier to just reach over and 
unlock it with my finger than to

                                        pick up my mini and hope I can get it 
to unlock without having to type in

                                        my pass code. Any suggestions would be 
appreciated. Thanks for reading.

                                         

                                         

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