You should be able to get an HDMI to Optical adapter. Which soundbar do you 
have, is it a Sonos? If so it must be the older Playbar or the Playbase, those 
were connected to the TV with an optical connection.

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Owen
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2022 1:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple TV without a physical screen?

Darn. That means that since I only have the optical cable connections on my 
sound bar, it won’t work. :-(

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> On Nov 20, 2022, at 4:11 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
> 
> This would not help to connect to a Sonos Beam or Arc soundbar which have 
> only HDMI inputs. Maybe there is another adapter which would convert the 
> audio coming from your box back to HDMI, but as I said, a lot is possible, 
> but whether it is practical is another issue. Before I buy all these gadgets 
> I would simply buy the latest Apple TV 4K which was just released, hook it up 
> to my Sonos soundbar which from the way it sounds he already has and see if 
> it works. If not he can either return the Apple TV for a refund or look into 
> whatever other adapters/extractors are required to make it work.
> 
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> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 
> Matthew Bullis
> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2022 2:23 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple TV without a physical screen?
> 
> Hello, to get around this issue, I bought this several years ago. You connect 
> an HDMI cable to it, and then to the Apple tv, and you send your audio out 
> through the RCA jacks. It's used for those times when tvs or gaming consoles 
> don’t have their own audio outputs, and you need to have them for some 
> external speakers. It's about a thirty dollar item:
> ViewHD Premium HDMI to HDMI +... 
> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KBHX072?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
> Matthew
> 
> 
> On Nov 19, 2022, at 2:44 PM, Joney Owen <talk2o...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I asked this question when I was in a class for Apple TV a year or so ago. 
> We scuffed at a bit, because they couldn’t understand why the TV was not 
> wanted. However, I don’t believe it works without the TV. If you find out 
> differently, please let me know.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 19, 2022, at 1:43 PM, Richard Turner <richardr_tur...@comcast.net> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Apple Accessibility is available 24/7 at 877-204-3930
>> 
>> I suspect the answer is that the Apple TV won't care, but short of just 
>> trying it, the good folks at Apple could answer your question quickly.
>> 
>> I don't have a physical Apple TV, I just use the app on my iPhone or our 
>> Smart TV in our living room...
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard, USA.
>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” 
>>  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
>> 
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2022 9:58 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Apple TV without a physical screen?
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Does anyone know if the Apple TV will work if it is plugged directly into a  
>> soundbar such as one of the Sonos devices rather than into a  tv and thence 
>> to a soundbar?
>> 
>> I am trying to create a TV sound receiver for a small bedroom and don't want 
>> a  full sized TV screen as I can't see it anyway.
>> 
>> I am suspicious that the Apple TV box will complain because it can't see a 
>> display device..
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> Gary
>> 
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