I need to download one of those apps for my phone – maybe I’ll pay more attention to my Mastodon account then. Any accessible apps for Windows that aren’t the website? The thing likes to bounce around on me once I reach a certain number of messages scrolled.
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: January 22, 2023 6:18 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Twitter officially kills off all third-party client apps I joined dragonscave.space. It has a lot of blind users on that instance. You can move from instance to instance, but I haven’t done this myself. I use the Tusker app on IOS. It’s currently in beta. I’ve also used Mercury and Metatext, which are also accessible. The Mastodon app is accessible but doesn’t have as many features as other apps. I’ve heard good things about Toot, but I haven’t used it myself. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷ Chaltain at Outlook, USA From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Dennis Long Sent: Friday, January 20, 2023 11:41 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Twitter officially kills off all third-party client apps What is a good channel to join? If you join and don’t like the channel you join to can that be changed so your handle is at something else? From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Friday, January 20, 2023 8:50 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Twitter officially kills off all third-party client apps The fact that Twitter is used by so many governments and organizations is kind of irrelevant, unless they’re contributing to Twitter’s bottom line. Elon Musk isn’t out to make Twitter a public square or a utility; he’s out to make it profitable and get a return on his investment. If governments and organizations bring in users which in turn bring in advertisers then this makes sense, but this hasn’t been the case for the last eight years. I like Mastodon, but I don’t consider it a Twitter replacement. For me it feels more like something between Twitter and Facebook. I thin this might be in part due to the greater character limits on toots. I also find Mastodon to be more conversational than Twitter or even email, but this may just be the way I use Twitter. I also like the content warnings in Mastodon. It makes it easier to avoid inflammatory toots and gives me a chance to warn people about something I might be tooting. What I like most about Mastodon though, and the absolute #1 reason I’m more active on Mastodon then I’ve been on either Facebook or Twitter is the plethora of accessible clients. I guess I have a pretty low bar when it comes to how much inconvenience I’ll put up with to participate in social media, and I find Mastodon clients set that bar lower than the alternatives. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷ Chaltain at Outlook, USA From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Cristóbal Muñoz Sent: Friday, January 20, 2023 1:02 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Twitter officially kills off all third-party client apps I’m riding the bus until the wheels fall off. So far, nothing as far as VoiceOver accessibility has broken or at least not that I’ve noticed. Of the main social media platforms, it slowly became one of the more accessible ones out there. Terrible that the accessibility team was let go along with a lot of other people, but the work they did to make Twitter very accessible is still there. Spring for the most part is still working. I’ve noticed that I can’t reply or retweet, but it’s easy enough to access the option to view a particular tweet in the native Twitter app and do whatever I want with that tweet from there. Once Spring’s gone, I guess I’ll have to see how I get along with the actual twitter appt itself. I mean, Mastodon’s “ok,” but it’s like night and day as far as engagement and level of information. Who knows, Musk may very well run twitter into bankruptcy as he’s hinted at already and sell it off to whoever and it’ll end up under new management and structure where we’ll be able to go through this all over again. It’s used by so many. Not just people, but Governments, organizations and so on, it’s hard to see some other platform supplant or replicate what it does any time soon. There will likely be a Twitter 3.0 or 4.0, but who knows what that’ll look like or who will run it. Might as well just go with the flow for now. Cristóbal From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Alex Stone Sent: Friday, January 20, 2023 10:43 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Twitter officially kills off all third-party client apps I’m pissed about this. Less than a year ago, I paid good money for Tweetbot, and now I’ve got no money, and no app! Sent from my iPhone On 20 Jan 2023, at 18:38, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca <mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote: There is a few big differences between Apple and Twitter. Yes, Apple often does things the way they think people should do them, they even have released devices which didn't really exist because they felt that is what people should use, iPhone and iPad are examples of that. However, Apple is a public company and they are held accountable by their shareholders whereas Twitter is now Elon Musk's privately owned company and as such he really can do what he wants. Also Apple has made a clear commitment to accessibility a long time ago now (it started in 2009 with Voiceover being on every product) and I don't think currently Elon Musk has any thoughts for "minor" annoyances like accessibility. Of course I could be wrong and his vision for Twittter might be something nobody really can imagine now and maybe fantastic accessibility is part of it, we'll just have to wait and see. Whether anybody continues to use Twitter as it is now or not is entirely up to them, nobody who happens to disagree with what he is doing has the right to tell people to get off Twitter and delete their accounts. I think most people agree that Mastodon is not yet a replacement for Twitter and once again we'll have to wait and see if it ever will be or if it will fade back into obscurity as a platform for a small number of users. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Feliciano Godoy Sent: Friday, January 20, 2023 8:11 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Twitter officially kills off all third-party client apps Twitter is just fine. What’s your source for them firing their accessibility team? Just because Twitter doesn’t allow third-party apps to be utilized doesn’t mean that it’s a bad company. Many companies do you things how they want. Look at Apple. 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They fired their accessibility team. Now they have officially said no more third-party clients. So if you ever thought Twitter was worth anything, now it’s not. It’s all about Elon and his stupidity. Get out! Twitter officially kills off all third-party client apps AppleInsider / n...@appleinsider.com <mailto:n...@appleinsider.com> (Amber Neely) <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fphotos5.appleinsider.com%2Fgallery%2F52478-104792-twitter-xl.jpg&data=05%7C01%7C%7C60c3169ae7864415befa08dafb721474%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638098764662514395%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=259b7CA9ejS39eAz3xPKuekearG5vzkOIw3cZQVzZDM%3D&reserved=0> Twitter has updated its developer agreement to explicitly prohibit third-party app makers from creating their own clients using the company's API. 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Third-party apps have been central to Twitter use for most of the social media platform's history. Twitterific, for example, has been a crucial part of Twitter's history since the beginning. Twitterific had a native iOS app before Twitter did and is credited with coining the word "tweet." As a result of the API restriction, developers have begun pulling their apps out of the App Store. Today marks the end of an era. Sadly, we've been forced to pull Twitterrific from both the iOS and Mac App Stores. Twitter's unexplained revocation of our API access has left the app with no path forward. 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This particular move is probably focused on preserving advertising revenue for the company, as third-party clients often filtered out sponsored posts and similar media. In December, <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fappleinsider.com%2Farticles%2F22%2F12%2F18%2Ftwitter-blocks-user-links-to-other-social-platforms-except-for-paid-ads&data=05%7C01%7C%7C60c3169ae7864415befa08dafb721474%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638098764662514395%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=GEZpyW6GMdq57NGmfCH7vkmceSRlA%2FY8jG94Ywi9SFc%3D&reserved=0> Twitter began blocking user links to other social platforms. That was rolled back after user protest, and it's not clear when or if that will begin again. 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