Not a problem here, because if the deadbolt stays locked, they can't get out. Nor can they get in.
> On Jun 4, 2023, at 7:45 PM, R Van Lant <vanlant2...@msn.com> wrote: > > My only complaint with door levers is that they are harder to babyproof. > Little kids can so easily pull on a door lever. > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com > <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com><viphone@googlegroups.com > <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel > Sent: Friday, June 2, 2023 5:30 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Subject: RE: smart locks > > Janet, I try to explain one more time, when I speak about a door knob or > lever I mean an item which does the same thing, it opens the door. > Maybe if you go to Home Depot you can ask them to show you lever-style > handles, as I said, coming from Europe (in my case Germany) that is all we > ever had. When I came to Canada for the first time in 1980 at the age of 13 > having all this twist type knobs on doors was a total novalty for me. Luckily > at least here in Canada the more modern lever-style handles are catching on > more and more and I don't have a single knob-type handle on any door both at > my house and at the more heavy-duty, solid commercial doors at my store. All > have levers, you push down and open the door instead of grabbing the knob and > twisting it. It is also much easier to open a door with a lever-style handle > if your hands are full since you can simply push it down with your elbow, > forearm, hip or if you so choose even with your head, leg or foot (then of > course you have to balance on one leg as you lift the other to push the > handle. If you cary something very large you could even turn around and hook > it with your belt - the possibilities are ndless. And I also think they look > way nicer. > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com > <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com><viphone@googlegroups.com > <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of janet gross > Sent: Friday, June 2, 2023 3:19 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Subject: RE: smart locks > > Hi Sieghard, > I completely understand the difference between the door knob, lever, > deadbolt. I do definitely need a door knob though, or I couldn’t open the > door. I have a thick wooden door, and even though, the door knob is not the > main loc to open the door, I still have to have it to open the door. We do > not use the door knob for the main lock though. That is why we also have a > other lock such as the deadbolt as our main lock. Every one where I live > have door knobs. Because I have a thick wooden door, I can’t just swing the > wooden door open. We have the door knobs all through the building, in the > hallways, laundry rooms, front doors, back doors, basement doors, boiler > room. No matter where I go, rather it be a office or such, they all have > door knobs for opening and closing, in doctor’s offices, through all > hospitals, lawyers offices, Government offices. So that is how we get > through doors, but these knobs are not the main locks. This information > about the smart lock, sounds great, and very interesting. I will definitely > consider this one. I would have to ask the Home Depo if they could install > it for me though. > Thank you so much for all of this. > > Janet > From: viphone@googlegroups.com > <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com><viphone@googlegroups.com > <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel > Sent: Friday, June 2, 2023 8:38 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Subject: RE: smart locks > > Janet, you have to understand the difference between the knob or lever you > turn or push down on to open an unlocked door and the deadbolt. > If you have a good and secure deadbolt there is no reason to also have a > knob/lever which can be locked. As I said before, these are typically not > very strong and are designed for inside the house for bathrooms, bedrooms or > an office which you may want to lock, but you are not typically worried > about something which is extremely secure, just something to keep somebody > out like when you go to the washroom and you simply don't want somebody else > to walk in on you. > As I said, I prefer the European style levers but of course a round or ovel > knob you twist works just fine if that is your preference and of course you > could leave your existing lockable knob, but if you don't carry the key then > just make sur eyou don't accidently lock it when you leave. > Below is the name and a summary of the Schlage Encode Plus which is my next > choice for a smart lock since it supports the "Apple Keys" feature which > allows you to unlock it by tapping your phone or watch against the lock. This > means you can unlock this even if the power were out since it does not > rrequire Wi-Fi for unlocking as long as you stand right in front of it with > your iPhone or Apple Watch. In this case it communicates directly with your > device, of course your iPhone would have to be unlocked so if you are > somebody who prefers not to have your iPhone protected with a PIN and Face Id > (or touch Id if you have anb SE) then you would have to do so otherwise you > can't set up this feature just like you can't set up a credit card for Apple > Pay unless your phone is protected by a passcode/Face Id or Touch Id. > > Schlage Encode Plus Electronic Smart lock Wifi Deadbolt Camelot Black Matte > with Apple Home Key > Model #: 194482 > Store SKU #: 1001770746 (this is from Home Depot Canada) > Price: $399.00 (once again, this is from Home Depot Canada in Canadian > Dollars and it's definitely one of the more expensive locks out there) > Built on a century of industry-leading innovation and trusted security, the > Schlage Encode Plus Smart WiFi Deadbolt is changing the way you protect what > matters most. Built-in WiFi and secure encryption help you control and > monitor your home from anywhere, no additional accessories needed. This > innovative smart lock provides secure, seamless access when paired to the > Schlage Home app and connected to your home's WiFi network. Conveniently > schedule up to 100 access codes, view lock history, receive push > notifications, pair with Amazon Alexa and Google Assistant for hands-free > control, and so much more. It also works with Apple HomeKit and Apple home > keys. With home keys, you can simply tap to lock or unlock using your iPhone > or Apple Watch for easy and secure access to your home. Built smart and > tough, the Schlage Encode Plus deadbolt is certified highest in Security, > Durability, and Finish by industry experts. > ANYWHERE ACCESS: With built-in WiFi compatibility, you can easily and > securely connect your Schlage Encode Plus lock to your home WiFi network to > control and monitor your home from anywhere with the Schlage Home app > PEACE OF MIND: Lock and unlock from anywhere, mange up to 100 access codes, > view lock history, receive customizable notifications and easily manage > multiple locks at once - all when paired to the Schlage Home app and > connected to a secure WiFi network > TAP TO UNLOCK: Works with Apple HomeKit and Apple home keys; with home keys > you can simply tap to lock or unlock using your iPhone or Apple Watch for > easy and secure access to your home > VOICE CONTROL: Works with Amazon Alexa and Google Assistant for optional, > hands-free convenience when paired with the Schlage Home app and a voice > enabled device. Works with Siri when paired with Apple HomeKit > ADVANCED SECURITY: Secure, encrypted connection; built-in, customizable alarm > for door movement and forced entry attempts; fingerprint-resistant > touchscreen; certified highest residential Security, Durability and Finish > rating by BHMA industry experts > EASY INSTALL: Install in minutes with just a screwdriver, no hardwiring > required; Snap 'n Stay design helps keep the lock on the door so both hands > are free; fits standard doors with 1-3/8 in. to 1-3/4 in. door thickness and > 2-3/8 in. or 2-3/4 in. backset > > Manual: The Home Depot will provide an accessible format of PDFs upon > request. Please contact us at 1-800-628-0525. > > Details > Biometric (For Electronic Keypad): No > Collection Name: Accent > Colour/Finish: Matte Black > Commercial/Residential: Commercial/Residential > Connectivity: Wi-Fi, Manual > Country of Origin: MX-Mexico > Cylinder: Single, Electronic > Fits Door Thickness: 1.75 > Handing > Center > Included Components: > Mounting Hardware, Lock Nut, Mounting Screw With Washer, Housing, All > mounting Hardware, Clip, Fittings, Installation Screws, Mounting Plate, > Battery, Keys, Deck Plate, Cams, Offset Cam > Lighted: (for electronic keypad) > Material: Mixed > Number of Users (for electronic keypad): 40+ > Security Grade: Grade 1 (Best) > Smart Technology: Smart > Style: Traditional, Classic, Retro > Type: Door Locks and Deadbolts, Keypads, Latch, Locks/Latches > Voice Assistant: Alexa, Google Assistant, Siri > Warranty / Certifications: WARRANTY: Limited lifetime mechanical and finish > warranty and 3-year electronics warrant. > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com > <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com><viphone@googlegroups.com > <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of janet gross > Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2023 11:17 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Subject: RE: smart locks > > Sieghard, > I definitely want a Smart deadbolt Lock, but I can’t get rid of the door nob > because I wouldn’t have any way to open the door, but maybe I could just > leave that door nob button unlocked. This way I could still get in my house. > If the Smart Deadbolt Locks are that secure, I should be fine unlocking the > door nob. I can’t help but laugh about this, because I wouldn’t even know > how to get through a door without using a door nob, rather it be a push in or > turn nob. > > Janet > From: viphone@googlegroups.com > <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com><viphone@googlegroups.com > <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel > Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2023 1:01 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Subject: RE: smart locks > > A good deadbolt is really all you need, these old twist handles where you > have a button you can push in or where you push in and twist the handle to > lock it are really not rated for exterior doors; they are good for privachy > doors like a bathroom or bedroom, but they would not stand up to any sort of > force. I prefer a good smartlock deadbolt and a nice lever-style handle, but > then I am Germany and we never had round door handles which you had to twist, > even when I was a little child in the late 60's interior as well as exterior > doors had lever-style push down handles. > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com > <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com><viphone@googlegroups.com > <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of janet gross > Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2023 8:52 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Subject: RE: smart locks > > Joseph, > I like the idea about removing the deadbolts, and replacing them with the > keypad, but I also have door nobs with locks on them, so not sure how that > would all work out. 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