Janet, I try to explain one more time, when I speak about a door knob or lever I mean an item which does the same thing, it opens the door. Maybe if you go to Home Depot you can ask them to show you lever-style handles, as I said, coming from Europe (in my case Germany) that is all we ever had. When I came to Canada for the first time in 1980 at the age of 13 having all this twist type knobs on doors was a total novalty for me. Luckily at least here in Canada the more modern lever-style handles are catching on more and more and I don't have a single knob-type handle on any door both at my house and at the more heavy-duty, solid commercial doors at my store. All have levers, you push down and open the door instead of grabbing the knob and twisting it. It is also much easier to open a door with a lever-style handle if your hands are full since you can simply push it down with your elbow, forearm, hip or if you so choose even with your head, leg or foot (then of course you have to balance on one leg as you lift the other to push the handle. If you cary something very large you could even turn around and hook it with your belt - the possibilities are ndless. And I also think they look way nicer.
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of janet gross Sent: Friday, June 2, 2023 3:19 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: smart locks Hi Sieghard, I completely understand the difference between the door knob, lever, deadbolt. I do definitely need a door knob though, or I couldn’t open the door. I have a thick wooden door, and even though, the door knob is not the main loc to open the door, I still have to have it to open the door. We do not use the door knob for the main lock though. That is why we also have a other lock such as the deadbolt as our main lock. Every one where I live have door knobs. Because I have a thick wooden door, I can’t just swing the wooden door open. We have the door knobs all through the building, in the hallways, laundry rooms, front doors, back doors, basement doors, boiler room. No matter where I go, rather it be a office or such, they all have door knobs for opening and closing, in doctor’s offices, through all hospitals, lawyers offices, Government offices. So that is how we get through doors, but these knobs are not the main locks. This information about the smart lock, sounds great, and very interesting. I will definitely consider this one. I would have to ask the Home Depo if they could install it for me though. Thank you so much for all of this. Janet From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Friday, June 2, 2023 8:38 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: smart locks Janet, you have to understand the difference between the knob or lever you turn or push down on to open an unlocked door and the deadbolt. If you have a good and secure deadbolt there is no reason to also have a knob/lever which can be locked. As I said before, these are typically not very strong and are designed for inside the house for bathrooms, bedrooms or an office which you may want to lock, but you are not typically worried about something which is extremely secure, just something to keep somebody out like when you go to the washroom and you simply don't want somebody else to walk in on you. As I said, I prefer the European style levers but of course a round or ovel knob you twist works just fine if that is your preference and of course you could leave your existing lockable knob, but if you don't carry the key then just make sur eyou don't accidently lock it when you leave. Below is the name and a summary of the Schlage Encode Plus which is my next choice for a smart lock since it supports the "Apple Keys" feature which allows you to unlock it by tapping your phone or watch against the lock. This means you can unlock this even if the power were out since it does not rrequire Wi-Fi for unlocking as long as you stand right in front of it with your iPhone or Apple Watch. In this case it communicates directly with your device, of course your iPhone would have to be unlocked so if you are somebody who prefers not to have your iPhone protected with a PIN and Face Id (or touch Id if you have anb SE) then you would have to do so otherwise you can't set up this feature just like you can't set up a credit card for Apple Pay unless your phone is protected by a passcode/Face Id or Touch Id. Schlage Encode Plus Electronic Smart lock Wifi Deadbolt Camelot Black Matte with Apple Home Key Model #: 194482 Store SKU #: 1001770746 (this is from Home Depot Canada) Price: $399.00 (once again, this is from Home Depot Canada in Canadian Dollars and it's definitely one of the more expensive locks out there) Built on a century of industry-leading innovation and trusted security, the Schlage Encode Plus Smart WiFi Deadbolt is changing the way you protect what matters most. Built-in WiFi and secure encryption help you control and monitor your home from anywhere, no additional accessories needed. This innovative smart lock provides secure, seamless access when paired to the Schlage Home app and connected to your home's WiFi network. Conveniently schedule up to 100 access codes, view lock history, receive push notifications, pair with Amazon Alexa and Google Assistant for hands-free control, and so much more. It also works with Apple HomeKit and Apple home keys. With home keys, you can simply tap to lock or unlock using your iPhone or Apple Watch for easy and secure access to your home. Built smart and tough, the Schlage Encode Plus deadbolt is certified highest in Security, Durability, and Finish by industry experts. ANYWHERE ACCESS: With built-in WiFi compatibility, you can easily and securely connect your Schlage Encode Plus lock to your home WiFi network to control and monitor your home from anywhere with the Schlage Home app PEACE OF MIND: Lock and unlock from anywhere, mange up to 100 access codes, view lock history, receive customizable notifications and easily manage multiple locks at once - all when paired to the Schlage Home app and connected to a secure WiFi network TAP TO UNLOCK: Works with Apple HomeKit and Apple home keys; with home keys you can simply tap to lock or unlock using your iPhone or Apple Watch for easy and secure access to your home VOICE CONTROL: Works with Amazon Alexa and Google Assistant for optional, hands-free convenience when paired with the Schlage Home app and a voice enabled device. Works with Siri when paired with Apple HomeKit ADVANCED SECURITY: Secure, encrypted connection; built-in, customizable alarm for door movement and forced entry attempts; fingerprint-resistant touchscreen; certified highest residential Security, Durability and Finish rating by BHMA industry experts EASY INSTALL: Install in minutes with just a screwdriver, no hardwiring required; Snap 'n Stay design helps keep the lock on the door so both hands are free; fits standard doors with 1-3/8 in. to 1-3/4 in. door thickness and 2-3/8 in. or 2-3/4 in. backset Manual: The Home Depot will provide an accessible format of PDFs upon request. Please contact us at 1-800-628-0525. Details Biometric (For Electronic Keypad): No Collection Name: Accent Colour/Finish: Matte Black Commercial/Residential: Commercial/Residential Connectivity: Wi-Fi, Manual Country of Origin: MX-Mexico Cylinder: Single, Electronic Fits Door Thickness: 1.75 Handing Center Included Components: Mounting Hardware, Lock Nut, Mounting Screw With Washer, Housing, All mounting Hardware, Clip, Fittings, Installation Screws, Mounting Plate, Battery, Keys, Deck Plate, Cams, Offset Cam Lighted: (for electronic keypad) Material: Mixed Number of Users (for electronic keypad): 40+ Security Grade: Grade 1 (Best) Smart Technology: Smart Style: Traditional, Classic, Retro Type: Door Locks and Deadbolts, Keypads, Latch, Locks/Latches Voice Assistant: Alexa, Google Assistant, Siri Warranty / Certifications: WARRANTY: Limited lifetime mechanical and finish warranty and 3-year electronics warrant. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of janet gross Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2023 11:17 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: smart locks Sieghard, I definitely want a Smart deadbolt Lock, but I can’t get rid of the door nob because I wouldn’t have any way to open the door, but maybe I could just leave that door nob button unlocked. This way I could still get in my house. If the Smart Deadbolt Locks are that secure, I should be fine unlocking the door nob. I can’t help but laugh about this, because I wouldn’t even know how to get through a door without using a door nob, rather it be a push in or turn nob. Janet From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2023 1:01 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: smart locks A good deadbolt is really all you need, these old twist handles where you have a button you can push in or where you push in and twist the handle to lock it are really not rated for exterior doors; they are good for privachy doors like a bathroom or bedroom, but they would not stand up to any sort of force. I prefer a good smartlock deadbolt and a nice lever-style handle, but then I am Germany and we never had round door handles which you had to twist, even when I was a little child in the late 60's interior as well as exterior doors had lever-style push down handles. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of janet gross Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2023 8:52 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: smart locks Joseph, I like the idea about removing the deadbolts, and replacing them with the keypad, but I also have door nobs with locks on them, so not sure how that would all work out. I also wonder how easy it might be for someone to break the keypad, do you know? Janet Janet -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. 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