I'll stick with voice dream reader. That other app you guys are talking about sounds way to complicated for me.
On 6/23/23, Richard Turner <richardr_tur...@comcast.net> wrote: > It is over the button labeled Audio Settings and it tells you the number of > words per minute. > > > > > Richard, USA. > “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little > consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin > My web site: https://www.turner42.com > > >> On Jun 23, 2023, at 5:20 PM, Ivan Icin <labsiiser...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> Richard, >> >> I have just tried and it works. For speed it may not be obvious as it will >> just repeat the sentence at a bit higher or slower speed but with two or >> three swipes the difference will be quite noticeable. >> >> Voice Dream Reader has a similar VoiceOver adjustable gesture for speed (I >> think that it is over their button that should be titled “Speech”). Can >> you perform such a gesture there? >> >> On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 1:50:45 AM UTC+2 Richard Turner wrote: >>> >>> Ivan, >>> I am using a 13 Pro. And flicking up or down on the speed button does >>> only switch between standard and high. >>> Flicking up or down on the play button doesn't seem to do anything. >>> I will revisit it again after reading the helps. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Richard, USA. >>> “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little >>> consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin >>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com >>> >>> >>>> On Jun 23, 2023, at 4:14 PM, Ivan Icin <labsii...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> OK, >>>> >>>> >>>> for the speed when that standard/high speed button is focused with >>>> VoiceOver you should hear 'adjustable', which means that you can swipe >>>> up and down to do something. In this case it is to increase the current >>>> speed (this way you can customise the value of both standard and high >>>> speed depending on the state of that button). This is also available in >>>> the Settings where you can find sliders to customize those two values >>>> (and that is the only way you can adjust those values for those that >>>> don't use VoiceOver) >>>> >>>> For the navigation the story is a bit more complex as this is a bit more >>>> different than VDR, but in some way it may be even more capable. You >>>> need to be aware of those layers: >>>> - navigation is at the high level accommodated to be of maximal use with >>>> headphones and other audio devices (there are tactile audio commands on >>>> all Apple's headphones and most of the 3rd party ones). As such it is >>>> based on multiple standard audio commands and some their gestures. As I >>>> side note I find somewhat strange that people with eyesight to some >>>> extent prefer to use the app with headphones while blind people that are >>>> not in any way handicapped in using the headphones and are to some >>>> extent handicapped in using the screen extremely prefer to use the >>>> screen and I don't have any explanation for that - even as I have asked >>>> few blind people for the feedback. However I try to support every use >>>> case the best it can be so the app is certainly useful in that way too. >>>> - every standard audio command (play/pause, skip forward, skip backword, >>>> next, previous) and gesture (quick press of the volume up and then >>>> volume down button or quick press of the volume down and then volume up >>>> button) can be customised in the app's Settings to execute any of the >>>> commands that you have mentioned (like going to the next paragraph, >>>> sentence, etc). >>>> >>>> Assuming that you are using the screen and not the headphones one >>>> question would be where to find / how to use those audio commands on the >>>> screen. So here is a general overview: >>>> - if VoiceOver is focused on the Play/Pause button you will hear that it >>>> is 'adjustable'. In this context means that if you swipe up or down it >>>> will issue audio command skip forward/backward >>>> - Previous and next buttons are visible on the toolbar (and on the >>>> bigger screens like iPads or landscape on bigger iPhones you will see >>>> also skip forward and backward buttons >>>> - If you use the screen you can certainly press the volume down and very >>>> quickly volume up button (or opposite) to execute some navigation >>>> command that you have set for those gestures >>>> - Page indicator is adjustable control too, so you can swipe up or down >>>> there to navigate pages (but this works only on PDFs, other formats >>>> don't have built-in page definitions - at the moment I am not sure for >>>> DAISY as it has that information but I can't remember if there is the >>>> logic to extract it). This is visible on most modern devices, except on >>>> iPhone SE variants >>>> >>>> The app has a help document in the Extras tab, it is also available >>>> online on this link: https://speechcentral.net/ios-help/ >>>> On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 12:19:49 AM UTC+2 Richard Turner wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Can you explain: >>>>> >>>>> 1. How to adjust the speed on the fly while reading? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 2. How to navigate by sentence, paragraph, page, heading, or bookmark? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Is there an instruction guide? I will give it more time. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The only adjusting of the speed I can find is between standard and high >>>>> speed. Not terribly useful for me. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Richard, USA. >>>>> >>>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with >>>>> it.” -- Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the >>>>> Universe >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> From: vip...@googlegroups.com <vip...@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of >>>>> Ivan Icin >>>>> Sent: Friday, June 23, 2023 2:25 PM >>>>> To: VIPhone <vip...@googlegroups.com> >>>>> Subject: Re: Voice Dream Reader and Family sharing >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Richard, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> First thanks for trying the app, I really appreciate it. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Second it is reasonable that you can be as proficient in few minutes as >>>>> the app that you were using for more than 10 years. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> So if you say for the speed change, yes you can change the speed with >>>>> VoiceOver gestures from the main screen. As it is done from the speed >>>>> button I think it is fairly straightforward, though again it is >>>>> reasonable that some might not discover that in few minutes. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I haven't fully understand what way of navigating you wanted to make, >>>>> but preliminary I don't think that your explanation is correct in any >>>>> use case. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> As such I cannot underestimate your effort to try the app and even >>>>> provide some positive elements of feedback. Still my app has options to >>>>> use Neural voices that are like 10 years ahead of anything in Voice >>>>> Dream Reader, many other options that that app doesn't have and simply >>>>> calling it a cheap option for someone who doesn't have the money to pay >>>>> doesn't sound right. Again nothing wrong if you prefer Voice Dream >>>>> Reader for whatever reason - even if you just got used to it, but I >>>>> don't find that statement as proper. Just for the record I know >>>>> multiple blind users that have switched from Voice Dream Reader to >>>>> Speech Central as they find it better for various reasons even as they >>>>> have already paid the license. Some are using both for various use >>>>> cases, as said there are many things that Voice Dream Reader (or Speech >>>>> Central if you look from another perspective) cannot do. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I can fully agree only on the limited Bookshare support though, but it >>>>> started with enthusiasm on both sides and ended few months later when >>>>> those people that approved my partnership left Bookshare and those that >>>>> came didn't even want to reply most of the time... As such it is still >>>>> where it was like 5 years ago and it certainly left some things to >>>>> desire. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Friday, June 23, 2023 at 10:32:54 PM UTC+2 Richard Turner wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Ivan, >>>>>> >>>>>> I just spent some time with Speech Central. To be completely honest, >>>>>> it is rather clunky to find a book on Bookshare, but that could be >>>>>> lived with. >>>>>> >>>>>> The fact that it cannot seem to navigate easily without having to stop >>>>>> and use the navigation button is a drawback. Also, not being able to >>>>>> change the reading speed on the fly. >>>>>> >>>>>> But, for those who cannot afford Voice Dream Reader, I can see why you >>>>>> get very good reviews. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Richard, USA. >>>>>> >>>>>> “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of >>>>>> little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ >>>>>> John Ruskin >>>>>> >>>>>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jun 23, 2023, at 12:06 PM, Ivan Icin <labsii...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Richard, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks for the question. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Just to note that there are also few other apps that are Bookshare >>>>>>> partners. I am aware of Capti Voice, but there should be some more I >>>>>>> think. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Again every app has its pros and cons and I always encourage people >>>>>>> to try all of them and find the one that suits them the best. >>>>>>> Especially in this community as my work in this domain is completely >>>>>>> non-profit and I don’t have any direct benefits if someone decides to >>>>>>> use my app (and the only indirect benefit is that I may get some more >>>>>>> reviews on the App Store). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Speaking of that I am happy if someone decides to try my app Speech >>>>>>> Central >>>>>>> https://apps.apple.com/us/app/speech-central-voice-reader/id1127349155 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Friday, June 23, 2023 at 8:37:22 PM UTC+2 gera...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Volume-boosting capabilities would be awesome as well. Some >>>>>>>> audiobooks and other MP3 material (especially series and films), >>>>>>>> don't have loud enough volume. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Gera >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> El 23 jun 2023, a la(s) 11:14 a.m., leoba...@gmail.com escribió: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Richard, you said: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I would be fine if I had to start paying $59.99 per year. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I think it is by far the best reading app on the market today. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I agree with you, but if the were to be the case, I would also like >>>>>>>>> to see further improvements in the app, such as the ability to >>>>>>>>> play M4B books, and transferring books to the app via Web browser >>>>>>>>> using a wifi connection. These are characteristics that other >>>>>>>>> similar apps already have. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Leo Bado >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> From: vip...@googlegroups.com <vip...@googlegroups.com> On Behalf >>>>>>>>> Of Richard Turner >>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, June 23, 2023 11:01 AM >>>>>>>>> To: vip...@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>> Subject: RE: Voice Dream Reader and Family sharing >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I just wonder if that price was for the Mac version or the iOS >>>>>>>>> version. If for the iOS version, that is too high in my opinion. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I've let the owners know that. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I personally feel that $59.99 per year would be reasonable. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I have used the app since at least version 2 and have been a beta >>>>>>>>> tester for Winston Chen for at least 10 years and even though I >>>>>>>>> purchased the app at the one time purchase deal, I would be fine if >>>>>>>>> I had to start paying $59.99 per year. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I think it is by far the best reading app on the market today. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I am not impressed with Bookshare's new BookShare Reader app. Nor >>>>>>>>> am I very impressed with the DAISY Easy Reader app. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Later, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Richard, USA. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch >>>>>>>>> with it.” -- Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in >>>>>>>>> the Universe >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> From: vip...@googlegroups.com <vip...@googlegroups.com> On Behalf >>>>>>>>> Of Ivan Icin >>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, June 23, 2023 9:49 AM >>>>>>>>> To: VIPhone <vip...@googlegroups.com> >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Voice Dream Reader and Family sharing >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> At this point I am not sure to what you refer to, but if you refer >>>>>>>>> to reviews they are on the iOS version of the app and they are very >>>>>>>>> recent, like just few days ago. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> So at least some people were asked to pay 100$/year recently in the >>>>>>>>> iOS app. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Friday, June 23, 2023 at 6:24:31 PM UTC+2 Richard Turner wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Well, you are correct, of course. At least, mostly. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> However, the subscription started while Winston Chen owned Voice >>>>>>>>>> Dream Reader for the Mac computers only. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Winston was going to add the subscription to the iOS version, but >>>>>>>>>> he sold the company before he did that. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> So, the Applause group implemented the subscription model for all >>>>>>>>>> versions. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> So, if someone was asked to pay $100 last year, that would likely >>>>>>>>>> have been the Mac version. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> At least, that is what I understand and I could of course be >>>>>>>>>> wrong. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> HTH, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Richard, USA. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch >>>>>>>>>> with it.” -- Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in >>>>>>>>>> the Universe >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> From: vip...@googlegroups.com <vip...@googlegroups.com> On Behalf >>>>>>>>>> Of Ivan Icin >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, June 23, 2023 8:56 AM >>>>>>>>>> To: VIPhone <vip...@googlegroups.com> >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Voice Dream Reader and Family sharing >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Looking at the web site it seems that I can read there what you >>>>>>>>>> sad that is in the App Store too. So probably a week or two ago >>>>>>>>>> when I checked it was different. It probably means that they have >>>>>>>>>> finally settled to that 80$ price point (it could be that they are >>>>>>>>>> still experimenting with non-US markets or that those markets will >>>>>>>>>> take more time to update the listings due to lower sales volume). >>>>>>>>>> You can read in the reviews that there are people in the US that >>>>>>>>>> were asked to pay 99$/year, so certainly that price was there very >>>>>>>>>> recently. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Anyway I did say that their most common price point was 80$ or 90$ >>>>>>>>>> (I wasn't sure which one as that was from my mind), so what you >>>>>>>>>> said isn't diametrically opposed to what I said. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Friday, June 23, 2023 at 5:41:42 PM UTC+2 Ivan Icin wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I think that I had that information from the website for the US >>>>>>>>>>> App Store. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> In my country the pricing is in EUR, so I don’t think that I have >>>>>>>>>>> looked there, currently there are 6 annual subscriptions with >>>>>>>>>>> prices 45-130 EUR. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, June 23, 2023 at 4:55:31 PM UTC+2 Richard Turner >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I just checked in the app store and only found one price in the >>>>>>>>>>>> US: Annual Subscription$79.99. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Also listed are the various voices you can purchase at $4.99 >>>>>>>>>>>> each. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> What country are you in? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Richard, USA. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in >>>>>>>>>>>> touch with it.” -- Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent >>>>>>>>>>>> Life in the Universe >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> From: vip...@googlegroups.com <vip...@googlegroups.com> On >>>>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Ivan Icin >>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, June 23, 2023 1:42 AM >>>>>>>>>>>> To: VIPhone <vip...@googlegroups.com> >>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Voice Dream Reader and Family sharing >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> You have information on pricing in the App Store. Currently >>>>>>>>>>>> they are experimenting with something like 5 price points. In >>>>>>>>>>>> general in such cases developers randomly assign those to users >>>>>>>>>>>> to see what price points brings the most money to them. As the >>>>>>>>>>>> App Store arranges those by the one that is currently most >>>>>>>>>>>> frequently used, I think that their most likely price is >>>>>>>>>>>> currently 80 or 90$/year. There is one higher price point than >>>>>>>>>>>> that and several lower >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> So at the moment the app doesn’t have a uniform price. But it >>>>>>>>>>>> seems that you are much more likely to be charged close to >>>>>>>>>>>> 100$/year than 50$/year, which is the overall range that they >>>>>>>>>>>> use. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, June 23, 2023 at 1:26:12 AM UTC+2 Richard Turner >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Where did you get that price from? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> That is much higher than had been announced. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Richard, USA. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end >>>>>>>>>>>>> of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we >>>>>>>>>>>>> do” ~ John Ruskin >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 22, 2023, at 4:18 PM, Ivan Icin <labsii...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I had too many typos, so here is corrected version with few >>>>>>>>>>>>>> more words: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Voice Dream is now a free app, so from the aspect of Apple >>>>>>>>>>>>>> that acquired license is now worth 0$. Also take that free >>>>>>>>>>>>>> with a bit of grain as it now actually costs around 100$/year >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to be used, just it is free to download. If you already own >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the license in general you don’t need to pay the new price, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> but the system isn’t bulletproof as Apple doesn’t support such >>>>>>>>>>>>>> a transition and it it technically possible that some users >>>>>>>>>>>>>> might need to pay, though that should be a very tiny ratio. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Other that that when it was a paid app Family Sharing was >>>>>>>>>>>>>> meant only for in-app purchases, and this is Apple’s policy >>>>>>>>>>>>>> for all paid apps. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, June 22, 2023 at 8:45:39 PM UTC+2 Tim wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That is a good question...:) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I had the same issue. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tim >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/22/23, leoba...@gmail.com <leoba...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Hello. Someone I know is having issues with Voice Dream >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Reader and family >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > sharing. This person bought VDR time ago when it was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > acquired through >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > one-time payment. However, now he wants to share VDR but a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > message pops up >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > saying that it is not possible. 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