Richard, Just checking, but you are going into Settings -> General -> Software 
Update right? And you’re saying that the Beta Update toggle is set to off. I 
don’t want to try this right now, but I seem to recall that it wasn’t obvious 
when that toggle was toggled on. I think I toggled it on and when I came back 
after a while, it was good to go.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, October 3, 2023 1:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: vibratory feedback returns, as well as classic default tones

Well, apparently, no matter what I try, the beta software refuses to be on my 
iPhone 13 pro.
I followed the instructions from beta.apple.com/profile and the 
settings,General,Software, beta is stuck on off.
So, I will just wait a few weeks for them to release it.




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Subject: RE: vibratory feedback returns, as well as classic default tones

Your decision, for me the iOS 17.1 beta works well and since it just came out 
it's probably going to be at least 4 weeks or maybe 5 beforew the iOS 17.1 
public release.

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Richard Turner
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Subject: RE: vibratory feedback returns, as well as classic default tones

Thanks Sieghard for confirming this.
I think I can hold on until the public release of 17.1.




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For me I always had my custom ringtones under Sounds > Ringtone, but under the 
other categories like Text, Voicemail I did not.
Anyways, I installed iOS 17.1 Developer Beta and just checked and now all my 
custom tones are also back and I can use them for text tone, voice mail, email 
etc.


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Richard Turner
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Subject: Re: vibratory feedback returns, as well as classic default tones

No, I'm referring to tones you create, save as m4r files and add to your phone. 
That is not available in the iOS 17 or 17.0.1.


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(Sent from my iPhone)

On Oct 2, 2023, at 6:42 PM, Loreal Lavigna 
<loreallavi...@gmail.com<mailto:loreallavi...@gmail.com>> wrote:

You can still customize tones for texting for all or for individual contacts, 
and you can play sounds for incoming mail/VIP senders.  If you’re referring 
though to the new tones introduced in the previous version of beta 17.0, I’m 
not sure.  An article said that the new tones went away with this latest 
release, but it is very possible they could be back soon.

Also according to the article I read, there were updates to Apple Music, and 
there were a couple visual changes such as a flashlight indicator showing up in 
the top bar above the top row of icons sits, but the anticipated Journal app 
from Apple has yet to make its appearance.
I
Can try and find the article and send it tomorrow morning, but if not then some 
time later in the day.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
<viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
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Subject: Re: vibratory feedback returns, as well as classic default tones

Any idea if custom ringtones are back?


Richard, USA
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"While striving for perfection, let us do what is possible." — John Wesley
(Sent from my iPhone)

On Oct 2, 2023, at 6:16 PM, Loreal Lavigna 
<loreallavi...@gmail.com<mailto:loreallavi...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hey everyone,

I’ve been playing with the public beta of iOS 17 for several weeks now.  About 
a month ago, perhaps less, I noticed that with an update to the beta, the 
haptic occurring when the phone was unlocked all of a sudden was non existeng.  
I am happy to report though that as of updating the software yesterday to 17.1, 
this vibratory feedback on screen unlock is once again back.

I also noticed that all of a sudden VoiceOver was speaking temporary banners as 
they popped up on the top of the screen as they did two versions of 17 ago.  
Glad to see these have returned as well.

I did see in an article that the new ringtones temporarily with iOS 17.1 in 
this past updated version are now no longer present in this latest version.  
While I liked them, I did miss certain automatically-played sounds/tones with 
certain functions.


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