Re: 17.1 just made iOS worse

[Chris Chaffin]

I just played with this a little and I learned something. If I am using the phone speaker, then it does the haptic vibrations instead of the sound when pressing the button for Siri.  But if I am wearing my Airpods, then I do hear the sound. So the sound is still there, but it is turned off for some reason when using the phone speaker. I do think Siri just has hiccups from time to time.  I experienced this no matter what version of iOS I was running. For best results, wait 2 to 3 seconds after pressing the side button before issuing the command. I just asked Siri to open 5 or 6 different apps back to back, and she did them all perfectly.  And one of those was mail, of which I opened multiple times. One tip: You can train Siri to listen and understand you better. Go to Settings, Siri and Search. Even though I previously had this set to on, when updating to iOS 17.1, it turned off the listen for Siri. Just tap on Siri, hey siri, or both siri and hey siri to turn it on and do the practice speaking. After hitting the continue button, it will give you 5 short siri commands.  It will read the command to you, then you are to repeat them.  Once done, you are all set. Hope this helps. Chris Chaffin On Oct 27, 2023, at 11:17 AM, Richard Turner <richardr_tur...@comcast.net> wrote:  I just said “Siri, open mail” and it opened mail, three times in a row successfully.   I don’t know why they thought it was a good idea to remove the sound when holding in the side button, but that is one that writing accessibil...@apple.com and providing feedback through www.apple.com/feedback is a good idea.         Richard, USA. “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe   My web site: https://www.turner42.com   From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Steve Matzura Sent: Friday, October 27, 2023 7:46 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: 17.1 just made iOS worse   I've been waiting for 17.1 to come out to hopefully fix bugs I'd heard about and preferred not to experience. So imagine the look on my face when after upgrading from 16.7.2 to 17.1 I said "Siri, open mail," and was answered with "which one, phone or mail?". Rather surprised, I answered "mail," and was immediately told something went wrong, please try again later. Well, later hasn't come yet, because if I tell it to open mail, I get the same thing.   Also, I discovered that instead of playing a sound when I press and hold the side button on my 14 Pro Max, I get the double-buzz like you would get if VoiceOver weren't running. Haven't yet found a way to reverse this one.   But seriously, opening mail fails? Gimmy back my 16.7.2.   -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.   If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.   Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. 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