I think the other thing that people need to keep in mind, it’s just because an artificial intelligence says that’s your expression doesn’t mean you have to believe it. You can ask follow-up questions. The beauty is we have deductive reasoning and can make that determination with further input. Also, if you’re totally blind, every input of an expression is going to be through hearsay whether it’s artificial intelligence or another human being. You’re still going by their interpretation of the expression, not your own judgment. Every single thing that is described to us is through someone else’s eyes or interpretation of what they visually perceive it to be. That means, every description is suspect since no two people are going to take away the same thing. That’s why it doesn’t really bother me if the artificial intelligence Gives an answer that isn’t maybe how I’m feeling or etc. because I can use my reasoning to figure it out.
Kellie and my lovable Lady J Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 13, 2023, at 7:26 PM, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I agree with that. The Be my A I is just telling us what we'd see, if we > could - hairy arm; stern expression. I would want it to tell me what it sees. > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > Robert Doc Wright > Sent: Monday, November 13, 2023 4:50 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Be My AI and what it may teach us? > > What is wrong with the truth? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Cristóbal Muñoz <mailto:cristobalm...@gmail.com> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Monday, November 13, 2023 2:09 PM > Subject: RE: Be My AI and what it may teach us? > > > This topic reminds me of these two articles. > > Blind Olympic athletes show the universal nature of pride and shame > <https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/article/blind-olympic-athletes-show-the-universal-nature-of-pride-and-shame> > > > The role of visual experience in the production of emotional facial > expressions by blind people: > <https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5902524/> > > Sometimes, BeMyEyes descriptions aren’t appreciated. The other day, I used > it to snap a photo of a bag of green coffee beans that I wanted to roast. I > held the bag of beans in my left hand and snapped the picture with my iPhone > in my right hand. BeMyEyes came back with a description of the type of bean, > region where they were grown, altitude and a whole bunch of other info I > wouldn’t gotten if I tried using SeeingAI. Cool cool… > > At the end of the very detailed description, BeMyEyes also wrote that the > bag was being held by someone with a harry arm. WTH! What’s up with the > editorializing? > > > > Cristóbal > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of > Sieghard Weitzel > Sent: Monday, November 13, 2023 12:31 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Be My AI and what it may teach us? > > > > What did your friend say about your expression? I assume it described you > as "serious" because you weren't smiling. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > <viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of > Malcolm Parfitt > > Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2023 4:52 PM > > To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > > Subject: Be My AI and what it may teach us? > > > > Hello friends. > > > > I appreciate that none of you know me personally and like me have no idea > what I look like. > > > > However, at my request a friend of mine took a picture of me recently when > we were in what we call in the UK a pub. I was very interested in the > results I obtained when asking Be My AI to describe the photo. It’s > description was: > > > > The man in the picture has a fair complexion and a sturdy build. His hair > is short and appears to be a mix of gray and black, and he has a full head of > hair. His eyes are partially closed, and he has a somewhat stern or serious > expression on his face. His nose is prominent and he has full lips. He is > clean-shaven. > > > > He is wearing a dark-colored polo shirt with a collar. The shirt has a > small embroidery on the right side of his chest that reads "Samuel Smith" in > a cursive font with gold thread. The shirt appears to be of a comfortable fit. > > > > The lighting in the picture is focused on him, making him the central > element of the image. There is no additional information provided about the > man, such as his name or what he is doing in the pub. > > > > > > What interested me most is that this is the closest we can get to a > sighted person looking in a mirror. > > > > The other thing that struck me was the description of my expression. I > had never really thought about expressions but I suddenly thought are > expressions learned or natural. How far do our expressions mirror those of > sighted people. I didn’t feel serious at the time, and if Be My AI’s > description of my expression was accurate then why would I look serious? > > > > Do our expressions really express our mood as sighted people’s do? > > > > Not really an Apple question admittedly but an interesting subject. > > > > Apologies in advance for the off-topic post but I would be most interested > in your opinions. > > Malcolm Parfitt > > > > -- > > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or > if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners > or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . 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