Ah, thank you for clarifying that, Mark! In Apple Books, I can set to continuous scrolling rather than page-turning to avoid such problems but most of my Kindle books were not apparently typeset to allow this. Thanks Harry
> On 29 Dec 2023, at 04:45, M. Taylor <markthew...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hello Harry, > > Yes, if I manually lock the screen during Speech Screen playback, on a Kindle > title, speech will stop at the end of the current page. > > However, when reading text from the web or other various text, locking the > screen does not cause playback to stop. > > When it's all said and done, Speech Screen behaves differently depending upon > what is being read. > > Mark > > -----Original Message----- > From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2023 10:59 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: With VoiceOver enabled, Can anyone locate the Speech Screen > controller in iOS 17.2? > > Mark, thank you very much for the details. Your instructions work perfectly, > except that you do not refer to having the screen locked after starting the > Speak Screen process. Yes, if the screen remains unlocked, the speak. Screen > turns pages and carries on talking. But if after starting the speak screen > feature, I lock the screen, the Speak Screen voice simply stops at the end of > current page and does not restart and does not turn the page over. Is that > your experience too? Thanks > >> On 28 Dec 2023, at 17:33, M. Taylor <markthew...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Hello Harry, >> >> First, in order to have the Speech screen feature read a Kindle title, >> scrolling through the pages as it reads the text: >> >> 1. >> Make certain that the Kindle app for iOS is closed and removed from the App >> Switcher. >> >> 2. >> From the Spoken Content area of Settings, enable the Speech controller. I >> suggest that you set the control opacity to 100%. >> >> 3. >> On the Home screen / LaunchPad of your iPhone, locate the Speech Controller >> and expand and collapse it a couple of times in order to become familiar >> with how it works. Note that the Controller floats on top of the display >> and will remain in the same location on the screen. >> >> 4. >> With the Controller collapsed, launch the Kindle app and open a title. >> Place focus on the title from the point from which you would like the Speech >> Controller to read. >> >> 5. >> Now, expand the Controller and activate the Play button. As long as focus >> remains on the Controller, it will read the text of the Kindle title, >> continuously. >> >> Mark >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com> >> Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2023 2:36 AM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: With VoiceOver enabled, Can anyone locate the Speech Screen >> controller in iOS 17.2? >> >> Whenever i start Speak Screen, for example reading a Kindle book on iPhone >> 15 pro or iPad pro M2, it always stops at the end of the page, refusing to >> turn the page. This has been my experience for a long time. Any suggestions >> about how to fix it? >> Thanks >> Harry >> >>>> On 27 Dec 2023, at 23:55, M. Taylor <markthew...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Hello Gentlemen, >>> >>> There are several reasons why the Speech controller can prove to be most >>> helpful. >>> >>> 1. >>> Even though Siri can read correctly formatted websites, out lout, it cannot >>> read articles from Apple’s own News app. Amazing, eh? So, as I am a big >>> fan of Apple News Plus, and frequently find myself reading long articles >>> while on the move or doing chores, where I may need to easily stop and >>> start Siri playback, engaging the Speech controller allows me playback >>> options similar to those found in BARD Mobile, Libby, and the Audible app. >>> >>> 2. >>> Although I am Alexa’s number one fan when it comes to enjoying Kindle books >>> via the Kindle app for iOS, slowly but surely, Amazon has removed Wired Ear >>> Pods playback functionality from the Alexa app. This is to say, one has to >>> use Voice commands, more and more, in order to engage Alexa. There are >>> many scenarios in which voice commands simply stop working, for example, if >>> iPhone locks or another app grabs focus. >>> >>> Fortunately, the native Apple speech controller works better with the >>> Kindel app for iOS than ever before. So, while certainly not my first >>> choice, if given the option, Siri does a remarkably fine job of reading >>> Kindle books with more wired Ear Pods playback functionality than Alexa has >>> offered in over two years. And the best part? The speech controller now >>> actively causes the Kindle app to turn pages, as it reads, just like my >>> beloved Alexa. >>> >>> So, there you have it, two reasons why I find the native speech controller >>> an essential treat in the Apple orchard. >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of >>> Richard Turner >>> Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2023 12:43 PM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: With VoiceOver enabled, Can anyone locate the Speech Screen >>> controller in iOS 17.2? >>> >>> Good question Sieghard, >>> I thought that was mostly for non-VoiceOver users, or in the case of speak >>> screen, if you wanted to lock the phone while reading something lengthy. >>> But speak screen only requires a two finger swipe down from the status >>> bar... In the past, having both speak selection and speak screen on with >>> VoiceOver caused more distraction than helping. But there must be a >>> specific case where all that is desired. >>> >>> >>> Richard, USA >>> “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores >>> it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get >>> it.” >>> -- Cedrick Bridgeforth >>> >>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Dec 27, 2023, at 10:37 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <mailto:siegh...@live.ca> >>>> wrote: >>> Sorry for my ignorance, but what are the benefits of using this speech >>> controller? >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> On >>> Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright >>> Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2023 12:05 AM >>> To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: With VoiceOver enabled, Can anyone locate the Speech Screen >>> controller in iOS 17.2? >>> >>> Did you remember to set the size of your speaking bar? I set mine to 52% I >>> found it at the top next to the volume up button on the left side of the >>> phone. >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "M. Taylor" <mailto:markthew...@gmail.com> >>> To: <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >>> Sent: Monday, December 25, 2023 11:05 PM >>> Subject: With VoiceOver enabled, Can anyone locate the Speech Screen >>> controller in iOS 17.2? >>> >>> >>> Hello All, >>> >>> I feel as though I am missing something. Try as I may, I cannot locate the >>> Speech controller in iOS 17.2 when VoiceOver is enabled. Please do the >>> following on your iOS 17.2 device: >>> >>> 1. >>> From the Accessibility Settings area, select, Spoken Content. >>> >>> 2. >>> Enable Speak Selection. >>> >>> 3. >>> Enable Speak Screen. >>> >>> 4. >>> Select Speech Controller and enable, Show Controller. >>> >>> Now, open any app with text or, for that matter, open any dialog box in a >>> list view, such as the settings area and see if you can get the feature to >>> work. >>> >>> There used to be a way to see the speech controls at the top of the screen >>> but, try as I may, I cannot find them. >>> >>> By the way, I have my Spoken Content voice set to Siri. >>> >>> All replies most appreciated. >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. 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