You suggest none of us give them a dime, I suggest everybody does what they feel is best for them and let's stop bad mouthing them because you don't agree with their business decision which is entirely theirs to make. This is getting old and it's a repeat of the same issue when some app developer who started out with a free app realized they had to charge something since free wasn't paying their bills. It's one thing for a company like Microsoft to offer Seeing AI for free, it's another thing for an app developer or maybe a small group of developers who joined together and want to make a living from what they do to offer their work for free. I remember the outrage when years ago the Flexy keyboard became a paid app and there are other examples, there are also some examples where an app was a paid app at first and then it became a free app and of course people who initially paid a few bucks were then mad because they could now get it for free. The important lesson is that none of these apps are around any more and if people want quality apps which they use daily to continue and to not just get a few bug fixes but also new features, then they have to pay something for them. How often has this come over the years regarding Jaws and their SMA cost every two years or more recently the annual subscription model. Strangely nobody complains about the monthly or annual subscription costs of Netflix, Disney Plus, Apple TV, Apple Music, Spotify and on and on. From what I read the new owner of Voice Dream Reader has released updates with new features, voices are now included, OneDrive support was added and they say there are plans to add Kindle support which I think for many would be a very big deal and just because they maybe haven't joined every iPhone list where they engage directly with our community does not mean they are a " crappy corporation" who only cares about money. I own a retail store and it's an incorporated business and I definitely care about making money because that is my job, but that does not mean I don't care about my customers and providing them with good service and about my community where I donate thousands of Dollars each year to all sorts of organisations, events and fund raisers. The vague statement about the "crappy corporation and money is all they care about." Indicates that you probably don't know anything at all about the individuals behind the company and why they decided to buy Voice Dream Reader, yes, I say buy because while I also don't know for sure, I am pretty certain Winston Chen didn't just give it to them after years of work because he is such a nice guy. I also read another post where it was stated the developer doesn't care or engage with our community. Let's not forget that this is not strictly an app for the blind, but it's also for people with dyslexia and just regular sighted people who want an app which can read books, PDF's, web articles etc. It says in the app description that it is " Optimized for VoiceOver, Braille and switch control" and has " High contrast and large font size for low vision readers.", but that is only part of its many features. Just move on, buy the subscription and enjoy the app if you want to don't and shut up if you don't; anything else people say about has been said already.
Best regards, Sieghard -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of The Evil Chocolate Cookie Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2024 2:31 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Jonathan Mosens take on the VoiceDream issue I suggest none of us give them a dime. It’s own edby some crappy corporation now and money is all they care about. > On Mar 27, 2024, at 5:28 PM, Malcolm Parfitt <malc...@parfitt1.org.uk> wrote: > > It appears to me that what ever the rights, wrongs and merits of the new > pricing structure are the choice is simple, subscribe or don’t. > > I doubt very much that the creators of the app in question monitor this list > so all we are doing is arguing amongst ourselves. > > It is well worth noting that software is often licensed and not sold. I have > an Apple Music subscription and as long as that is active I can play any > music in their catalogue. They may increase the price of the subscription at > any time. If I choose to terminate my subscription I am no longer able to > play their music even if it has been downloaded to my device. > > Apps have changed to a subscription model before or added in app purchases so > this is nothing new or unscrupulous. > > Pay your money and make your choice. No one is holding you to ransom. > Malcolm Parfitt > >> On 27 Mar 2024, at 9:16 PM, Dennis Long <dennisl1...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Applause Group > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/AB0A1E04-187F-4DAD-9092-6F168567FE58%40parfitt1.org.uk. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/D1F46EC7-4E68-4767-94C0-6FA8F7A5AA1C%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/PH7PR12MB56563A4849A78AA7FC52C034C73A2%40PH7PR12MB5656.namprd12.prod.outlook.com.
