Well, I remember such posts, but people are talking like they already
know all about the app and how much it will cost and how it'll work and
so on. Just seems like maybe we're getting a bit ahead of ourselves here.

On 02/03/13 19:48, Richard Turner wrote:
> If you missed my original post on this topic, 
> 1.  it has not been released and there is no projected date, it could be
> soon or it could be months yet.
> 2.  Mike May stated at CSUN yesterday that the price would likely be around
> $100 and he wasn't sure if that would be  for one year or up to three years
> of access, or what.
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 5:33 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN
> 
> Has the Sendero app been released yet or are we still just speculating
> on it's price and functionality?
> 
> As with all of these discussions, everyone can obviously have an
> opinion, but each person needs to decide for themselves if the feature
> set is worth the price or not. Sure, you may get close to this feature
> set with multiple apps, but someone is perfectly free to decide to pay a
> bit more not to have to learn and juggle multiple apps.
> 
> I like the statement "I by no means condemn those of you who have the
> money to waste on this type of business plan." On one hand he's saying
> he isn't condemning anyone but on the other hand he's saying anyone who
> does buy this product is wasting their money. I would claim that it's up
> to each person to decide if this is a waste of their money or not, and
> no one else can make that decision for any one else.
> 
> On 02/03/13 17:26, Robert Fenton wrote:
>> Hello everybody: 
>>
>> At the risk of offending some people, I offer a different perspective on
> the developer of the seeing eye app charging fees every year or every three
> years. If the developer went to a one time pricing model, it would have to
> price the app higher to recover its development costs. It would then face
> the same kind of criticism from our community for selling an app that the
> community believes is over priced. It is a damned if you do, damned if you
> don't scenario. 
>>
>> Personally, I would be prepared to pay more for ownership of the app and
> for a set of maps that are available at the time of release. I am also
> prepared to pay for nap updates as sighted users of gps systems do. 
>>
>> Bob Fenton
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On 2013-03-02, at 3:47 PM, Keith Watson <lnx...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> John,
>>>
>>> Exactly. You bought a device, it had maps on it. You can now choose to
> upgrade or not to upgrade those maps on the device when they become
> available. If you do not choose to upgrade the device will continue to work
> the way it was sold to you.
>>>
>>> Now I buy a device, lets call it an iPhone. I then purchase an app called
> Seeing Eye from a company called Sendero. I pay $100 for the app. time goes
> by. Lets say for the sake of argument that its 3 years later. In the interim
> I have lost my job, the stock market has crashed and the bank has taken my
> house back. I have a job interview and want to use this app to find my way
> to it. I turn it on and low and behold they want another $100 in order for
> me to use it. In other words I have rented the app for 3 years and now its
> useless to me. To my small mind this is not good business. I would go so far
> as to call it extortion. If I am going to pay that high a price for
> something I damned well want to own it.
>>>
>>> I do not know what Garmon is going to do with map updates. Whether they
> are going to be free or not is besides the point. I bought Navigon. It will
> work the way it is until I get rid of the device, IOS changes so
> drasticallyy that it no longer is supported or something else better comes
> along to replace it. The choice is mine, not theirs.
>>>
>>> Again, these are my opinions and my thoughts. I by no means condemn those
> of you who have the money to waste on this type of business plan. I guess I
> am just a bit more frugal than most.
>>>
>>> Keith
>>>
>>> On Mar 2, 2013, at 2:21 PM, john gallagher <j...@pianotuner.plus.com>
> wrote:
>>>
>>>> hi there keith interesting but say on my sendero on the apex because the
> maps are actually on the machine even though they will not get updated they
> will still work and yes cost is important for blind people as we have to pay
> much more for our devices and of course the software.  am i correct in
> saying that with navigon there updates are free.
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