To add another comment if you have an IPhone with lots of memory
ICloud won't hold all your data. I did the same as Richard and was
pleasantly surprised when I didn't have to redo all my icons on the
pages I wanted them.

On 3/6/13, Richard Turner <richard.turne...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Paul,
> I think you have it.
> I find backing up to the computer far more reliable.
> Back up your current phone.
> Then, start the setup of the new phone and when you get to the option to set
> it up as a new phone or restore from a backup, choose restore from a backup,
> you may get an option to restore from the cloud or iTunes, choose iTunes.
> Plug the phone in to the computer and follow the prompts.  It should default
> to the latest backup but double check that it is using the latest one just
> to be safe.
>
> You don't have to name the device, but if you plan to use the older device
> for anything else, you may want to give the new one a new name, but you can
> do that later.
>
> To reset the device to factory settings, go into Settings, General and the
> last item will be reset.  There are several choices in there, but it sounds
> like you want the one that erases the data, etc.
>
> HTH,
>
> Richard
> (Sent from Richard's iPod Touch 5th gen)
>
> On Mar 6, 2013, at 10:09 AM, "Paul Ferrara" <paul.ferr...@insightbb.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Richard, tell me if any of this is incorrect.
>>
>> First thing I want to do is back up the phone on the computer.
>> Then I can restore it to factory defaults; can that be done in settings?
>>
>> Next get the new phones, enable voiceover, and back up from the computer.
>> Will I have to enter the name of the new device, i.e. Paul’s iPhone and
>> then just say that I am backing up from a previously restored device
>> backup?
>>
>> I assume if I try and back up from the cloud, it will not work as well or
>> some things could fail to be restored?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> From: Richard Turner
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 12:32 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: too many apps in a folder?
>>
>> If you restore your new device from a backup of your old device, the
>> folders will indeed remain the same.
>> I went from an iPod Touch 3rd gen to an iPod Touch 5th gen with no
>> problem.
>> If you have a lot of audio content on your device, just plan to be very
>> patient and leave it alone in the restore process for as much as a few
>> hours.
>> If you interrupt it too soon, you will have a mess.
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard
>> (Sent from Richard's iPod Touch 5th gen)
>>
>> On Mar 6, 2013, at 9:29 AM, "Paul Ferrara" <paul.ferr...@insightbb.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Yes upgrading from a 3GS to a 5.
>>>
>>> Paul
>>>
>>> From: MamaPeach
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 12:16 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: too many apps in a folder?
>>>
>>> Upgrading as far as what? A new device? I don’t think they will be put
>>> onto a new device the way you have them now. You will have to redo them I
>>>    think. If I am mistaken, someone please chime in.
>>>
>>> From: Paul Ferrara
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 12:07 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: too many apps in a folder?
>>>
>>> Thanks very much.
>>>
>>> BTW will my folders remain the same when I upgrade which we’ll be able to
>>> do in about a week?
>>>
>>> Paul
>>>
>>> From: MamaPeach
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 12:03 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: too many apps in a folder?
>>>
>>> Yes, 12 is the limit, unless you have a newer device, such as an iPhone 5
>>> or iPod 5th gen, then it is 16 per folder.
>>>
>>> From: Paul Ferrara
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 11:53 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: too many apps in a folder?
>>>
>>> All, is it correct that you can only have 12 apps in a folder?
>>> I tried to add a 13th app into a folder and it would not work.
>>> Also what is the best way to move an app to a different page, i.e. where
>>> should you move your finger, etc.?
>>> Finally, is there a way to move stuff that’s on a page without making it
>>> move to another page?
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Paul
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