Hi neal, I'm a bit confused by your question but I hope this answers it.

There's only one form of backup you can do to iCloud, but two you can do to 
iTunes. When you back up to iCloud, your key chain isn't backed up. This means 
that if you restore from an iCloud backup, you'll have to enter certain data 
again, such as usernames and passwords.

If you back up to iTunes, you have the choice of making an encrypted or 
unencrypted backup. An iTunes encrypted backup is the most complete form of 
backup available. It backs up your key chain.

So an iTunes encrypted backup isn't stored in the cloud, but on your local 
machine.

Hope that's what you were after.

Jonathan
On 11/03/2013, at 10:33 AM, Neal Ewers <neal.ew...@ravenswood.org> wrote:

> Hi all, If I do an encrypted backup to the cloud, and then do a normal backup 
> from my phone, are they both on the cloud? I think so, but I wanted to check 
> for sure.
>  
> Neal
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