Hi Mickey,
If you come up with a comprehensive list of keystrokes that are known to
work with a bluetooth keyboard and an iPhone/iPad, post it to the list or
just send it to me privately if you want to. I'm sure I can put such a list
to use, both for myself and for my students. Thanks a bunch.
Tom
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From: "Mickey Quenzer" <mickey.quen...@gmail.com>
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 8:43 PM
Subject: Re: Editing commands used with iPhone or iPad with a bluetooth
keyboard
Thanks Esther I really appreciate all the information you gave me. I'm not
quite sure how I'll put this all together but if I come up with a document
that has all this information I'll definitely let you see it. thanks a lot
I appreciate the help you have given me!
On Mar 22, 2013, at 5:25 PM, Esther <mori...@mac.com> wrote:
Hello Mickey,
Richard is indeed correct that the keyboard shortcuts you are
describing that work for iOS devices are a subset of the editing
shortcuts that work on the Mac in Cocoa apps (which include most of
the basic apps like Mail, TextEdit, etc.). Similarly, selecting text
by holding down the Shift key in combination with a movement command,
like your example of Control+Shift+Down Arrow, where Control+Down
Arrow moves you to the end of screen, is another Mac concept that
carries over to iOS keyboard usage. (Actually, I would probably use
Command+Shift+Down Arrow to the move to the end of a text document --
there's a distinction between end of screen and end of a document.)
Shortcuts like Control+K (which moves to either the end of a line or
the end of a paragraph depending on application and context -- on a
Mac, in TextEdit, this shortcut would move to the end of a paragraph)
are part of a larger group of shortcuts that are familiar to linux
users who used control line editing and/or the emacs text editor.
Those shortcuts, like Control+A to move to the beginning of a line and
Control+E to move to the end of a line, also work with iOS, and can
even be used to select text when applied in combination with pressing
the Shift key. However, I don't think I would ever use those
combinations, when the same movement actions can be achieved with
Command+Right arrow or Left arrow, and selection accomplished by also
pressing the Shift key, unless I were using a keyboard with no Command
key, or where the Command key were placed in a position where pressing
this combination would be difficult to do -- as in the case of the
Riitek mini-Bluetooth keyboard sold by Speedots and ATguys.
These extra shortcuts were discussed on this list, but during the 3-
year period when list posts were not archived at the Mail Archive, so
it would be extremely hard to locate any posts that were not also cc'd
or sent to the macvisionaries list, which was archived.
Here's a Mail Archive page link to a post from July 2010 on "Apple
Wireless Keyboard Shortcuts for the iPhone and iPod Touch in iOS 4"
that was saved at the macvisionaries list archives. It lists the
Control+K combination among a number of other emacs-like control
shortcut sequences.
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries%40googlegroups.com/msg26148.html
That post also links to another, older post on "Moving and Selecting
in Cocoa Apps" that outlines how all these key combinations work on
the Mac (and incidentally in iOS by extension):
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries%40googlegroups.com/msg26148.html
If you want a more recent Apple Knowledge Base article on "OS X
Keyboard Shortcuts" that describes some of the combinations you
mention, like Control+K, see this page:
http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1343
Use item chooser menu to move to "Application and Other OS X
Shortcuts" and start reading from there.
The biggest modification in going from Mac OS X keyboard shortcuts to
iOS keyboard shortcuts is that the "Fn" key at the bottom left corner
of the Apple Wireless Keyboard is not used for iOS. So actions like
Forward delete of characters (Fn+Delete) or words (Fn+Option+Delete)
don't work in iOS, nor do combinations like Fn+Up arrow (Page Up), Fn
+Down arrow (Page down), Fn+Left arrow (Home), Fn+Right arrow (End).
In addition to editing shortcuts, the Mac has option key combinations
for typing accents, symbols and special characters. These are
language dependent, but some popular ones are Option+8 to type a
bullet, and Option+Shift+K to type an "Apple" symbol. Mickey, you're
on the Mac-Access list, so if you search the Mail Archives for that
list you'll find a lot of my posts about special characters, etc.
HTH. Cheers,
Esther
On Mar 22, 8:50 am, Richard Turner <richard.turne...@gmail.com> wrote:
Mickey,
I think you will find some of these are Mac keyboard commands.
I have not had time to really investigate this, but check the list of Mac
VoiceOver and just Mac keyboard commands and see if some of these, or all
of them, work on the devices.
HTH,
Richard
(Sent from Richard's iPod Touch 5th gen)
On Mar 22, 2013, at 10:29 AM, Mickey Quenzer <mickey.quen...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Hello all:
I would like to make a complete list of the editing commands which you
can use while editing with a BlueTooth keyboard.
an example of a keyboard command which I found for myself is that
Control Plus Shift Plus Down Arrow selects the text from your cursor to
the end of the document. However, this command isn't described with
Control Plus Option K.
Does Anybody know where I can get such a command list?
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