Hi Annie,
It wasn't bad, was it?
In the end, Prizmo took the prize! Text Grabber did well, but Prizmo dealt
best with the columns. However, this was my second shot, the first showed the
half frction for the lemon, but was less good elsewhere. So, why did it mistake
the fraction in one scan and not in the other? Why is it that when you keep the
book in precisely the same position and the lighting the same, is it that you
get differing results? This is, obviously, more to do with software than the
physical nature of scanning. There wasn't much between the two, but I would
suggest that having both apps will afford the best chance of getting
perfect/near perfect scans depending upon the layout/formatting of the text.
Also, if you are away from your StandScan pro, prizmo is still much easier to
use, it is more forgiving of slight skewing of the text.
Now, i am also interested to see how i can improve on rounded surfaces.
E.G. tins/bottles. Thus far, they prove difficult with tins doing better than
bottles of wine, this is because the diameter of a wine bottle is less than the
usual tin, so less curvature and less distorting of the text.
What is nice here is that we are beginning to speak of more difficult
aspects of scanning and not of the simple stuff which is very doable now with
these apps and the StandScan Pro. I think I have read that you are awaiting
yours? If I am right, please do let us know how you do with recipes etc, will
you? Many people here may not be interested in recipes, but may be interested
in, say, mathematical formulae or scientific symbols etc, getting good results
with recipes will help in working toward this IMHO.
Happy scanning and I could only wish that having scanned a recipe, I could
only get as proficient at actually cooking it!
Sandy.
Sent from my iPhone
On 25 Mar 2013, at 12:35, Annie Skov Nielsen <annieskovniel...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Sandra.
>
> Is this scanning done with textgrabber or prizmo.
>
> I have been scanning books for many years, and I can tell that cookbooks are
> the most difficult books to get a sensible result from. I am really impressed
> that you can get such results with a IPhone and standscan.
>
> Best regards Annie.
> On Mar 25, 2013, at 1:20 PM, Sandratomkins <sandratomk...@googlemail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have just been playing with Text Grabber and Prizmo in conjunction with
>> my StandScan Pro. I decided to try them with a book that I attempted to scan
>> many years ago using a flat-bed scanner and Kurtzweil. My results, possibly,
>> ten or more years ago, were less than satisfactory. In fact, you couldn't
>> follow the recipes because the quantities were illegible. Now, in many ways,
>> the apps we have available to us on the iPhone, are in their infancy.
>> obviously, they are a fraction of the size of, say, Kurtzweil and, also
>> obviously, a fraction of the price. plus, now we are dealing with a portable
>> solution. When you want to read a letter, something simple with no columns
>> etc, both Prizmo and Text Grabber will do the job, especially when using the
>> StandScan Pro. However, imbedded columns and symbols for
>> grammes/ounces/fractions etc can prove daunting for these pocket sized OCR
>> packages. Now that we have a way to position the phone exactly, and we can
>> ensure perfect lighting conditions, when things go wrong it is more to do
>> with the scanning/OCR capability of a given app rather than the physicality
>> of scanning. Also, there is one other variable: to wit, when we use a
>> flat-bed scanner, the book we are scanning is facing down onto a flat
>> surface and gravity alone will heple with ensuring the flatness of the text.
>> Now and again, we may use pressure on that book to make sure that the text
>> nearest to the spine is readable. This we cannot do when the book is facing
>> up toward the phone. So, until apps such as Prizmo or Text Grabber get
>> really clever and learn to deal with distorted text, we aill always have
>> trouble scanning two pages of a book, apart from when we are scanning
>> roughly half way through, because only half way through will allow you to
>> hold the pages equally flat.
>>
>> With all this in mind, I tried both Text Grabber and prizmo on my "The Big
>> Book of Tomatoes". I wanted results that would mean I could follow the
>> recipes with ease. In the end, for good enough results, I had to use only
>> single page shots. These pages all have paragraphs of text plus columns of
>> ingredients. Below is my best result, there are two significant mistakes,
>> where you will hear 'tilda" it should read "half" (so half a lemon). Also,
>> when it says "s minutes" it should read 5.
>>
>> The rest is perfect, it starts wheE. half way through a sentence and
>> finishes at the bottom, half way through a sentence.
>>
>> We are getting there, these results are much, much better than those
>> obtained by me and my expensive Kurtzweil and flat-bed scanner all those
>> years ago. I do know that kurtzwiel ahs improved since then, but our phones
>> and OCR apps are catching up fast. The point of all this is to draw people's
>> attention to the fact that not everything is about the right position of the
>> phone and the lighting, it is also about software.
>>
>> So, here it is!
>>
>> "f Tomato Soups ~ in the yoghurt. Taste and adjust the seasoning with salt,
>> Tabasco, lemon juice and possibly, depending on the ripeness of the fruit, a
>> little sugar.
>> Pick the mint leaves from the stalks and chop very finely. Stir into the
>> soup. Serve very cold.
>> HOT SOUPS BLACK BEAN SOUP WITH TOMATO AND
>> Serves 6-8 AVOCADO RELISH
>> Black beans, not to be confused with black-eyed beans, are small, shiny and
>> kidney-shaped. Their slightly sweet flavour is complemented by onions and
>> garlic, goes well with coriander, cumin and tomatoes, and needs to be pepped
>> up with chilli. This soup combines all those flavours and the result is an
>> intriguingly aromatic, thick and chunky soup, freshened with a 'salad' of
>> raw tomato and avocado seasoned with lemon juice.
>> 4 tbsp vegetable oil
>> 2 large onions, diced 4 garlic c(oves, chopped 1 tsp ground cumin 1 tsp
>> ground coriander 1 tsp dried oregano 1 bay leaf
>> 250 g dried black beans, soaked in water for at least 4 hours and drained
>> 2 x 400 g tins italian tomatoes for ~he garnish
>> 1 firm but ripe avocado, diced 1 tbsp lemon juice
>> 2 plum tomatoes, cored, peeled, 1 tbsp tomato purde
>> 1 scant tsp Tabasco a large bunch coriander (approximately 75 g), leaves
>> only, chopped
>> 1.75 litres hot water or vegetable stock
>> salt and freshly ground black pepper
>> ~,~ lemon
>> seeded and diced 100 g soured cream
>> a few coriander leaves Heat the oil in a large pan and saut6 the onion and
>> garlic for several minutes until slippery but not coloured. Stir in the
>> cumin, ground coriander, oregano and bay leaf, then add the beans. Cook,
>> stirring constantly, for S minutes.
>> Run a sharp knife through the tomatoes a few times while still in the tin
>> and add them, with their liquid, the tomato pur~e, Tabasco and chopped
>> coriander and the hot water or stock. Bring to the boil, turn down
>> immediately and simmer very gently for 3 hours.
>> Discard the bay leaf. Put& half the soup in a food-processor or
>> mouli-legumes. Pass the soup through a sieve, pressing down hard, into
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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