You may be right, and you do definitely have a point. The iDevices do allow yout o scroll and navigate the pages with the braille display but what I was trying to emphasize was the fact that your pages are indeed larger like reading a book on the iPad versus reading on your phone is for sighted individuals. In some circumstances, can be crucial to what you're doing and/or reading for work, or whatever your uses are. I'm writing this on my second cup of cofee for the morning so I apologize for the rambble, but that was what I was trying to get to there. This was in response to what Fred I believe was asking as to why or how blind people could use or benefit from the iPad and how it would be able to fit into what a person would use one for versus say an iPhone or iPod, so that was all I was trying to do. Take care. On Mar 27, 2013, at 9:05 AM, Aman Singer wrote:
> Hello, Timothy. > I would respectfully disagree that any of the things you note below > have to do with the iPad except for container movement. All the rest > are due to companies not properly putting accessibility into their > applications. If SXM properly made their products accessible, there > wouldn't be an issue in navigation, and if Apple allowed iBooks to > have pages turned by the scrolling of a braille display, the largeness > of the pages wouldn't matter. Personally, I like typing on the iPad > and actually like the size/shape of the product for certain functions, > and it can definitely be used by blind people, but the things you > specifically mention are problems in access on the iDevices, not > advantages of the iPad. > Aman > > > On 3/27/13, Timothy Emmons <temmo...@gmail.com> wrote: >> I'm going to chime in here, and I am also going to forward this on to some >> folks, for a few reasons. The biggest of couse is, that yes blind people can >> use an iPad and it does have a place and it goes beyond the dexterity issues >> you mentioned in your message. It may be a little bigger than an iPhone >> especially if you don't have an iPad mini but along with the extra real >> estate as it were, some apps give you more features and ways to interact on >> a bigger screen and the app developers make some of their apps take >> advantage of that size. Voiceover works a little differently on the iPad >> than it does on the phone, the basics are the same but some of the >> interaction is different in double tapping, holding, swiping, you have more >> room to do b igger gestures a four finger swipe for instance to bring up the >> app switcher, moving through emails and texts by container instead of just >> headings which moves you from section to section, etc. I could go on and on, >> but those are just a few ideas and things but an example of an app that >> works so much differently and better on the iPad, is of course the sirius Xm >> app. This app, on the phone is workable but a little different. On the iPad >> all your channel information is displayed, you can move through the channels >> without searching for certain areas on the screen, and you can get to things >> more quickly than on the phone. iBooks read differently than on the phone >> your pages are bigger. If you use a braille display this makes a difference >> because you're not having to advance page by page as quickly. I hope this >> helps and hope this might clear some thigns up but the iPad does work for >> blind people, can be used for pleasure as well as business and depending on >> the need can fit righ in with some of the best accessibility out there. I am >> a regional librarian for the Blind here in Alabama, and work with the >> braille collection as well as the technology and alternative reading methods >> and I teach classes, and give instruction on the iPad a lot and can tell you >> it makes a difference in those that use it, for some they would rather have >> it than the iPhone or the iPod. I hope this helps and if you have any >> comments let me know. Thanks and take care. >> On Mar 27, 2013, at 8:31 AM, Fred Olver wrote: >> >>> I am interested in your train of thought, could you go a step or two >>> further in your thinking or what you know. I have often thought about why >>> a person who is blind might want to use an iPad however beyond the >>> dexterity considerations I don't see any particular advantage unless one >>> is visually impaired thusly the letters and icons would be larger. >>> >>> Fred Olver >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Avnish Chopra >>> To: ViPhone >>> Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 2:53 AM >>> Subject: The Blind Have Use For An iPad, Too >>> >>> The Blind Have Use For An iPad, Too >>> Ubergizmo >>> >>> The blind might not be the original target market for the folks over at >>> Apple with the hugely successful iPad tablet in the first place, but this >>> does not mean that with a little bit of training, some perseverance, as >>> well as the right kind of software in place, the blind as well as visually >>> impaired folks too, are able to take advantage of this popular tablet >>> device. >>> >>> As you can check out in the video above from Bloomberg, Jon Erlichman from >>> the same company participated in a workshop that actually helps instruct >>> teachers on how one is able to unlock the power of the iPad for the >>> visually impaired. This is definitely a heart warming video, as we see >>> barriers being broken down thanks to the wonders of modern technology. I >>> wonder whether similar training concepts and ideas can be incorporated so >>> that those who want to use tablets on the Android platform will not feel >>> left out of the equation. >>> >>> By Ubergizmo. 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