Re: Tat Tap See

Lauren Simmons Mon, 22 Apr 2013 03:55:06 -0700

A better way of researching a question is by compiling a pool of go-toresources and you will not have to ask the list at all. This will probablyeliminate many, many of the questions asked here on almost a weekly cycle.Luckily for IOS there's lots of information out there.

Also, if you are going to give a presentation on the iPhone, why would younot want to conduct lots of research whether podcast or otherwise. Who knowswhat else you may not know or not even know to consider in regards to otherapps or features you will be presenting. In other words, though you may notlike it, information of all kinds is always great information.

LS

----- Original Message -----From: "Neal Ewers" <neal.ew...@ravenswood.org>

To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 9:29 PM
Subject: RE: Tat Tap See

Hi Dmitriy, I am sorry I miss-spoke about not using crowd sourcing, and Iam

very glad to have the correct information. It would appear that lots of
people still feel they need to tell me that I should listen to a podcast
Alan informed me of hours ago. Thanks to Alan, and Jonathan for the help,

and thanks to other assorted people. One way to cut down on traffic onthislist is to discover that a question has already been answered multipletimes

and to not assume that the questioner needs to be reminded over and over
again. Believe me, it's not that I mind being wrong, I just see wasted
resources when the same question has to be answered multiple times.



I do have one question for you.



What causes the sending of an image to time out? Is it that the image is
unrecognizable, or is it that the image never arrives at the destination.

Thanks for your answer. I will be much wiser now in explaining how thisapp

works when I do my demo of numerous apps.



Thanks again for writing and for making this amazing app available.



Neal





From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Dmitriy
Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 1:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Tat Tap See



Hello Neal,



TapTapSee does in fact use a combination of a database algorithm and human
crowdsourcing. The image is first sent out to our database, if it is not
able to recognize it then it is sent out to crowdsourcing.



TapTapSee, as mentioned, can take up to five images at a time and will

identify them in order they are received. The images then get deleted,theyare not stored on the user's device. Therefore, there's no need to lookfor

a clear button. The repeat button helps a user repeat the last identified
result, in case it was missed. The app takes a few seconds to identify an

image. Thus, once an picture is taken, the user should wait a moment forit

to be recognized and for the identification to be read back to the user.



I hope the answers I provided help with some of the questions in this

thread. Please feel free to ask anything else that you'd likeclarification

on.



NOTE: My name is Dmitriy and I work for the company that has created
TapTapSee. You can always ask us questions via Twitter, @TapTapSee
<http://Twitter.com/TapTapSee>  or by sending us an email to
Contact[at]TapTapSeeApp[dot]com.



Best Regards,

Dmitriy

On Sunday, April 21, 2013 11:08:50 AM UTC-7, Neal Ewers wrote:

Hi Jonathan, I knew VizWiz did ask a human, but I didn't know that tap tap
see did. According to RNIB, "It compares your photo with a large database
online to work out what it is."

I can find nothing about this using a human. I know VizWiz does becauseyou

actually send your request to a real person. Can you give me a source for
how Tap Tap See uses human intervention? I ask because I am doing a
presentation on iPhone apps in a few days and I don't want to give them my
incorrect information if it needs to be corrected.



Thanks much.



Have a nice day down under.



Neal







From:  <javascript:> vip...@googlegroups.com [mailto: <javascript:>
vip...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen
Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 1:16 AM
To:  <javascript:> vip...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Tat Tap See



Hi Neal, TapTapSee employs two techniques. It uses an object recognition
database first. If it can't get a result, then it will try crowd sourcing,
that is to say, asking a human.



Jonathan

On 21/04/2013, at 3:19 PM, Neal Ewers <neal....@ravenswood.org<javascript:>

wrote:




Hi Tap Tap see is never routed to a person.



Neal

From: <javascript:> viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto: <javascript:>vip...@

<http://googlegroups.com/> googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tom Frank
Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 10:15 PM
To:  <javascript:> viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Tat Tap See

Does anyone know how the Crowd sourcing works with Tap Tap See? Doestaking

too many pictures overload the system? If the system doesn't recognize an
object, is it always routed to a person? If so, I will be much more
judicious on the number of objects I ask TTS to identify.

Tom Frank

<javascript:> vermont...@gmail.com







On Apr 20, 2013, at 5:45 PM, "Neal Ewers" < <javascript:>
neal.ew...@ravenswood.org> wrote:

Patti, This app cycles through 5 pictures which it then deletes. This iswhyyou will hear it say something like picture 3 of 5. It gets to 5 andstarts

all over again, so not to worry.



My guess is that there are two issues here. One, you may not have held the

camera in the right place or maybe too close or to far away. Second, itwill

definitely depend on the light the camera sees. I can have it look at the
same object in different times of day and it will say slightly different

things. It does time out if it cannot see the picture or if it doesn'tknowwhat it is. I would suggest practicing with this in your home where youknowvarious objects are located and see if you can come up with somestrategies

of working with the camera. This might help you when you are in other
locations.



I hope this helps.



Neal

From: <javascript:> viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto: <javascript:>vip...@

<http://googlegroups.com/> googlegroups.com] On Behalf OfPatti Johnson
Sent: Friday, April 19, 2013 3:50 PM
To:  <javascript:> viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Tat Tap See



Hey yall.  I went to the store today with a  friend and while she was off

looking for something else, I got out my phone and opened up the Tap TapSee

app to see what happened with it.

I was in the pet aisle because I had just got a bag of cat litter.

so, I opened up the app and it said when I took the first picture, that it
was showing a bag of Meow Mix cat food.

"Cool" I thought, so I tried it again, and none of the other pictures Itook

worked.  Either they timed out or they were blurry.

Do I need to delete each picture I take before I take a new one, I just
couldn't figure out why I got those responses after that first picture.

I didn't think I was holding the phone any differently.

Just wondered, I could have a lot of fun with this app if I knew what Iwas

doing wrong.

Thanks,

Patti









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