Hi Richard,

Actually, they are not on the same pricing structure. I use motion X GPS Drive 
and it cost $10 per year. So even if they go at hundred dollars for three 
years, that is pricier.d

Sent from my iPhone

On May 12, 2013, at 5:14 PM, Richard Turner <richard.turne...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi David,
> I of course agree with most of what you said.  However, to be fair to 
> Sendero, the announcement at CSUN said that it will probably cost $100 for 
> one to three years, they had not settled on exactly how the pricing structure 
> would work.
> If it would be for three years, then you are in the same ball park as 
> something like Motion X gps for their turn-by-turn text to speech.
> If it is $100 per year, I am not sure they will get enough takers to make it 
> worth while.
> 
> But, that is straying off the topic of this thread a bit.
> 
> As for the scanning, using the StandScan Pro gets better results for me than 
> the KNFB Reader on a regular basis.
> 
> When Prizmo 2 comes out this week, it will be interesting to see how it 
> compares to the last TextGrabber for speed as well as other features.  I have 
> to say, at this point, I'm a TextGrabber convert.
> 
> Later,
> Richard
> 
> 
> Richard
> (Sent from Richard's iPod Touch 5th gen)
> 
> On May 12, 2013, at 8:15 AM, David Chittenden <dchitten...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Thanks for your reply. The OCR engine in TextGrabber and Prizmo is newer and 
>> better than the OCR engine in KNFB Reader. When these apps are used in 
>> conjunction with a product like the StandScan Pro, their abilities really 
>> shine through.
>> 
>> Even the hardware is better with the iPhone 5 verses the Nokia N86. Using my 
>> StandScan Pro and TextGrabber, I get OCR times of just a few seconds with 
>> quality that is equivalent to a desktop system.
>> 
>> I have heard rumours that KNFB Reading Technologies is considering creating 
>> a KNFB Reader for the iPhone. Their concern is whether people will pay 
>> several hundred dollars for the product. By my calculations, ten StandScan 
>> Pro boxes would come to $300, which I suspect would be the minimum asking 
>> price from KNFB Reading. I personally would not pay such a high price as it 
>> is not worth that kind of money to me considering I get better results with 
>> significantly less expensive equipment.
>> 
>> If you question my significant price expectations for KNFB Reader on the 
>> iPhone, consider the precedence. Sendero Group, the makers of GPS for the 
>> blind, announced at CSUN that the GPS app which the Seeing Eye invested in 
>> the creation of will probably sell for a subscription fee of $100 per year. 
>> With this pricing structure, they are charging $25 more per year than they 
>> charged for map updates with Mobile Geo.
>> 
>> I learned over a decade ago that it is almost always much more difficult for 
>> an adaptive tech company to switch over to a mainstream market. The fact is, 
>> there is no way consumers who are not blind will pay anywhere near that kind 
>> of money for OCR or GPS when the alternatives are all significantly less 
>> than $100 without any sort of subscription models.
>> 
>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On 12/05/2013, at 16:58, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello,
>>>  
>>> You’ll probably get a lot of replies and the 2 apps which people will 
>>> recommend the most will be Prizmo and Text Grabber. You may also get a few 
>>> recommendations for Text Detective and SayText.
>>>  
>>> Apps like Prizmo or Text Grabber are probably every bit as good recognizing 
>>> stuff as KNFB Reader is. The main cause for poor results are poorly taken 
>>> pictures where either the lighting is not good enough, the person who takes 
>>> the picture holds the phone too close, too far away or not parallel to the 
>>> text etc. People who use the Standscan which is a simple cardboard box 
>>> where the phone rests above the page you want to scan and looks down 
>>> through a hole in the top pretty much all get excellent results that often 
>>> rival those of a flatbed scanner. But it’s just the nature of the beast 
>>> that a blind person can’t take a perfect picture, make sure the page is not 
>>> in shadow and all that.
>>>  
>>> David from New Zealand was a KNFB Reader user before and now uses Prizmo 
>>> and Text Grabber and he has several times posted reviews where he explains 
>>> exactly why OCR on an iPhone can be just as good or better. It is my 
>>> understanding that one of the features which made KNFB Reader relatively 
>>> easy to use was the fact that it was quite forgiving with respect to focus 
>>> and alignment, but one should also not forget that Prizmo is $9.99 and KNFB 
>>> Reader was what, about $1,500?
>>>  
>>>  
>>> Regards,
>>> Sieghard
>>>  
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Avnish Chopra
>>> Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 9:37 PM
>>> To: ViPhone
>>> Subject: Decent OCR?
>>>  
>>> . 
>>> I have asked this question before. Is there no good OCR app? I mean some 
>>> good app like the Text Scout or the KNFB Reader? 
>>> Is it not high time that we IOS users got a decent one? I have tried at 
>>> least a dozen applications but none of them are even half as good as the 
>>> two mentioned earlier. Any suggestions as to how we can get reader onto 
>>> IOS? 
>>> 
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