Uncooked rice might be absorbent if it makes contact with water as one might expect when he or she cooks rice (one pours water into rice and the water is eventually soaked up by the rice), but I'm sure one will find significant drop in effectiveness if there is no direct contact between water and rice. In short, when you read someone tell a story regarding rice and their electronics, they may be describing only what they can see. That is, they saw the rice soak up the water on the outside of the device (the rice is making direct contact), but the person probably has no clue that the inside of the phone is still wet (there is no direct contact with the rice). Your anecdote below only describes what you personally experienced and not what you scientifically measured. As a blind person you also did not experience the experience first hand as someone may have explained the process to you. ...I guess in all this I'm simply conveying "don't believe everything you read just because a friend you believe to be credible told you. (Smile).

LS

----- Original Message ----- From: "David Chittenden" <dchitten...@gmail.com>
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Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 6:36 PM
Subject: Re: Muffled speaker from suspected water damage.


I used to work for a company that cleaned up water and water damage. We used heat and air-flow for minor water dry-outs. When the water damage was extensive, however, we used desiccants. This was much quicker and more effective, but you really did not want to have people in the area.

Uncooked rice is extremely absorbent. This makes it an excellent desiccant for drawing out water from unpowered electronic components. I have seen, but do not remember the reference websites, various sources that recommend placing sensitive mobile electronic products in uncooked rice to help draw water out more quickly.

Whether you do or not, be aware that iOS devices have moisture sensors near the electronics ports. If these sensors are tripped, much of the product warranty is void. Apple checks the status of the sensors whenever a warranty issue product goes in for repair or replacement.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
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On 17/05/2013, at 13:11, Christopher Chaltain <chalt...@gmail.com> wrote:

I don't see anyone saying water doesn't evaporate. I also don't see anyone saying heat doesn't play a factor. The key obviously is to get the phone as dry as possible as soon as possible. I didn't see anything on line that proved that using a desiccant is faster than just air drying, but it makes sense to me that air flow, gentle heat and a desiccant is all going to help get that phone as dry as possible as soon as possible. I don't think this is an old wives tale, and I don't think it just makes us feel like we're taking some action. If you find any evidence anywhere that desiccants don't aid in the drying process, I'd be curious to see it.

IMHO, your posts could use a little less sarcasm, and you could refrain from putting words in people's mouths. You don't need to do this to make your point.

On 05/16/2013 07:21 PM, Lauren Simmons wrote:
So you're claiming that water "never" evaporates--it must use rice?
Also, what is the mechanism responsible for your claim of "drawing out
moisture?"
...And heat plays no role in evaporation? All news to me.

I have a strong feeling this rice thing is one of those memes so
ingrained into people's minds that they will never let it go. If
anything it might be just a tad more effective than air drying, but
since air drying doesn't make people feel like they have some sort of
scientific insight, people will continue perpetuating what might be a myth.

LS

---- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Pelletier"
<ron.pellet...@sympatico.ca>
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Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 3:38 PM
Subject: RE: Muffled speaker from suspected water damage.


Hi,

The rice will actually draw out the moisture.  Air will not.  Air will
only
dry if you have circulation.

Ron &Danvers


-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf
Of Lauren Simmons
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 4:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Muffled speaker from suspected water damage.

"...You have to put it in a bag of rice?" So you're telling me that
the only
way moisture will dry is using your technique? Whatever happen to "air
dry."

Maybe I should go out and start looking for large bags of rice for my
children in the event it warms up again and they want to go swimming.

If you want to be very careful simply let the device air dry for a few
days--without rice and all the pseudoscience.

LS
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bryan Schulz" <b.sch...@sbcglobal.net>
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 8:06 AM
Subject: Re: Muffled speaker from suspected water damage.


that won't do it.
you have to put it in a bag of rice and even sometimes that won't
save it.
Bryan Schulz


----- Original Message ----- From: "Lauren Simmons"
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To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 5:34 AM
Subject: Re: Muffled speaker from suspected water damage.


I would pull the phone out of it's case and let it sit for the next
couple

of days until all water evaporates. If you continue to mess with it
there
might be some water-related battery damage.

LS

----- Original Message ----- From: "Arianna" <englishride...@gmail.com>
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Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 3:28 AM
Subject: Muffled speaker from suspected water damage.


How can I fix this? I had my phone on the edge of the sink, and it fell
inside while I was washing my hands. I didn't know about it until
later,
when I couldn't find my bone and went into the bathroom to check the
sink. Anyhow, the speaker has been muffled, although the sound coming
through headphones is fine. There wasn't too much water on the phone or
in it's case, but a little goes a very long way.


Thanks,
Ari

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